Email regarding price increases

JillwithaJay replied on 21/03/2022 15:11

Posted on 21/03/2022 15:11

Anybody received this yet?

"We look forward to welcoming you shortly on our UK Club campsites.


Ahead of your arrival, we wanted to give you advance notice that we’ll be making a small increase to our UK Club campsite prices for stays between 5 April 2022 and 3 January 2023 inclusive.


The unfortunate and sad events which have engulfed the world in recent weeks have meant worldwide electricity costs have increased exponentially. In fact the Club's electricity costs are forecast to increase by an unprecedented amount of around 50% this year.


The fairest way for the Club to manage the rising cost of energy required to run our UK Club campsites is for all members to pay a little bit extra when staying with us this year. This small price increase will support the Club in the face of the rising cost of energy and also help ensure that we can continue to reinvest in improving the UK Club campsite network.


What this means for you:


The increase will be between 70p and £2.50 per night depending on the season and the campsite you are planning to stay on. These calculations are based on a standard touring pitch and two adults.
From 5 April 2022 you’ll be able to see the exact new price you’ll pay by logging into ‘My profile’ and clicking on the ‘My UK Sites Bookings’ section.


There’s no need for you to do anything, on arrival at the campsite you will be charged the appropriate amount.


We appreciate this price increase will not be welcomed, however we would like to share that members have saved over £12.5 million on stays at our UK Club campsite network since July 2020, as the Club passed on the full Government VAT rate saving to members.


We need your support to ensure our wonderful Club can continue to operate all of our amazing campsites at the same high standards during the busy summer season and into the winter, when we expect utility costs to rise further.


What can you do to help:


Below are a few hints and tips to help reduce the cost of electricity usage when you are staying on one of our campsites.


If you have a solar unit on your outfit please use it as much as possible
Make sure indoor and outside lights, any heating appliances and electrical equipment are all turned off when you go out for the day and overnight
We want members to enjoy many holidays with the Club this year, so thank you for your continued loyalty and support, and we wish you an enjoyable 2022 season of touring.


Best wishes
The Caravan and Motorhome Club"

Hja replied on 21/03/2022 20:52

Posted on 21/03/2022 20:52

I have received the e mail today.  I assume it is going to those with bookings later in the year.

We have one night at a site in May.

Like others, I was left with more questions than answers.

"If you have a solar unit on your outfit please use it as much as possible".  I didnt understand what this meant.  I am not particularly technical.  I know my solar panel will give charge to my batteries, when not on EHU.  What I dont know is how it functions alongside EHU.  I just plug in and let it get on with it.

Are they expecting you to disconnect if its sunny?

Yes, energy prices are rising, so increases not unexpected.  However, I trust a far greater explanation will be forthcoming in due course.  Are they not on fixed deals?  Dont know how that works for businesses.  

Why the variation in increase? Presumably the greater increase will be in winter?  I assume the increase will be on the pitch fee?

What are the club doing to alleviate what will be permanently higher electricity costs?  (At least as long as energy is priced as it is with electricity effectively subsidising gas)?  I do think they should be looking at metering or ampage options or options for not using electricity.  Or putting rules in place about not heating awnings.  Where we have used metered sites, we have used what was included in the core price, by using how we would normally do.  But we dont use a lot of electricity.  Some people use a lot more so with costs as they are, I am not convinced that we should all be paying the same any more.

replied on 21/03/2022 21:04

Posted on 21/03/2022 21:04

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SeasideBill replied on 21/03/2022 21:46

Posted on 21/03/2022 21:04 by

In months to come I expect the price of energy will subside and stabilise.  I wonder if CC Ltd will then reduce the price 🤭.  I also wonder why they have not forward purchased to protect the business against fluctuations.  Doing so is just basic good management. Not doing so borders on commercial negligence.  

Posted on 21/03/2022 21:46

I hope you’re right about prices, but I don’t share your confidence. I hope these increases prompt a more responsible approach to managing energy consumption and that includes a major expansion of non-EHU options on CMC sites. Take camping back to its roots rather than heating up the atmosphere via the awning or running heating & hot water systems all night just because they can mindset.

peedee replied on 22/03/2022 06:47

Posted on 22/03/2022 06:47

Whatever the cost, it is money that cannot be recouped in any way and is just a further drain of club finances?

Not so, the Club can recover the cost of installing electricity meters and their maintenance in the same way any capital costs is recovered i.e. through pitch fees. As for installation costs, meters can be phased in over time and now the Club has no need of the money for a new Bristol site, they could easily redirect the budget for that to a program of installing meters.

The Club should bite the bullet and get on with it rather than take the easy way out by an increase in fees to cover an estimated blanket cost.

As for using an outfits' solar panels, the only way that is going to be achievable is if there is a tariff without hook up.

peedee

SteveL replied on 22/03/2022 06:56

Posted on 21/03/2022 21:46 by SeasideBill

I hope you’re right about prices, but I don’t share your confidence. I hope these increases prompt a more responsible approach to managing energy consumption and that includes a major expansion of non-EHU options on CMC sites. Take camping back to its roots rather than heating up the atmosphere via the awning or running heating & hot water systems all night just because they can mindset.

Posted on 22/03/2022 06:56

I don’t have any problem with responsible approaches. However, taking camping back to its roots, not a chance. My days of sleeping in a freezing tent are long past, although I didn’t mind it at the time. I’m afraid I will be running my heating overnight, at a reduced level, just like we do at home.

As far as the price increase is concerned, whilst not welcome I don’t have an issue, It was surely inevitable. These are unprecedented times and the CAMC are no different to any other business with spiralling costs, they can only be absorbed to an extent and then have to be passed on. I just hope the 70p to £2.50 range, is lowest in summer highest in winter, not linked to seasonal  price rise, which would not make any sort of sense.

 

peedee replied on 22/03/2022 06:57

Posted on 21/03/2022 21:04 by

In months to come I expect the price of energy will subside and stabilise.  I wonder if CC Ltd will then reduce the price 🤭.  I also wonder why they have not forward purchased to protect the business against fluctuations.  Doing so is just basic good management. Not doing so borders on commercial negligence.  

Posted on 22/03/2022 06:57

Did they get caught out through using a supply company/companies who folded?

peedee

Cornersteady replied on 22/03/2022 06:59

Posted on 22/03/2022 06:47 by peedee

Whatever the cost, it is money that cannot be recouped in any way and is just a further drain of club finances?

Not so, the Club can recover the cost of installing electricity meters and their maintenance in the same way any capital costs is recovered i.e. through pitch fees. As for installation costs, meters can be phased in over time and now the Club has no need of the money for a new Bristol site, they could easily redirect the budget for that to a program of installing meters.

The Club should bite the bullet and get on with it rather than take the easy way out by an increase in fees to cover an estimated blanket cost.

As for using an outfits' solar panels, the only way that is going to be achievable is if there is a tariff without hook up.

peedee

Posted on 22/03/2022 06:59

Not so, the Club can recover the cost of installing electricity meters and their maintenance in the same way any capital costs is recovered i.e. through pitch fees

So you are saying make pitch fees even higher PD? Is that a good idea on top of all these increases from April? Another round of increases this time next year? And unless the club's competitors do the same that will lead to even less income. Don't forget this is a holiday company? Are you proposing meters for hotels and holiday lets? 

Pitch demand is at an all time high, the best way forward is to buy another site if the Bristol site does not go ahead, at least sites generate income, your idea will won't at all and lead to even higher pitch fees

But, forgive me for saying so, you have posted you have 'no need of club sites' or and say you don't use them particularly so why do you want the club to install meters? 

Cornersteady replied on 22/03/2022 07:04

Posted on 21/03/2022 21:46 by SeasideBill

I hope you’re right about prices, but I don’t share your confidence. I hope these increases prompt a more responsible approach to managing energy consumption and that includes a major expansion of non-EHU options on CMC sites. Take camping back to its roots rather than heating up the atmosphere via the awning or running heating & hot water systems all night just because they can mindset.

Posted on 22/03/2022 07:04

Take camping back to its roots

Some indeed do lake that approach however it should not be forced on everyone, you may camp like that but others do not.

Club sites only account for 10% (probably less) of campsites and there are plenty of alternatives to choose from to suit all camping tastes.

Personally I don't think none of us 'camp' - not in our insulated waterproof (most of the time) outfits.

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