Posted on 12/11/2020 09:46
Interesting article on the BBC regarding the provision of Continental type Aires in the Highlands, see here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-54887204
David
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Posted on 15/11/2020 13:37 by peedeeYou have a very low opinion of the motorhome owning community JVB, sad. In a recent survey, those that said they would use facilities, over 96 percent of said the would pay.
peedee
Posted on 15/11/2020 13:15 by cyberyachtRufs wrote"In the UK in our local area I have seen people emptying the toilet cartridge in the public loo on more than one occasion, not very nice when you are confronted with Aqua blue all over the toilet and floor..."
That is just incompetence. It should not be beyond the wit of people to empty a cassette without it splashing everywhere and neither should it "bung up the bog". The only issue might be if it was a remote location feeding into a septic tank that would soon become full.
Posted on 15/11/2020 13:51
There must be very many "incompetent" persons who cannot seem to be able to empty their toilet cassette when noting the amount of residue that is found at most emptying points on sites ,how do they manage to get soil right up to the top of the brickwork?
there was as mentioned by Ruffs ,just that sort inconsiderate use of one of the gents toilets at the Whitby P&R a couple of years ago
Posted on 15/11/2020 13:58
Not quite the same issue, but I saw a newspaper article the other day about the lorry stack parks in Kent. Can only hope that someone has budgeted for loos for them. Lay-bys on lorry routes are frequently gross. I don’t blame lorry drivers absolutely either, nor MHs.
Posted on 15/11/2020 11:56 by DavidKlyneOften in these discussions there far too greater emphasis placed on the tiny minority of people that break the rules rather than the vast majority that don't. What should not be overlooked is that if there were proper facilities at regular points there would be no excuse for breaking rules. We are constantly informed that it is the local community that pay for these things but don't forget it is the local community that also benefit. That benefit might not be so obvious as the headline spend but it might mean that over time it keeps the local pub or shop open it also contributes to keeping people in jobs and may also create new ones. So a wider view of the cost/benefits needs to be considered.
David
Posted on 15/11/2020 14:01
If the reports of where motor caravans spoil the enviroment where they "wild camp?"it seems it is not such a "tiny minority" although it may? be others
And as some areas are on a knife edge when it comes to keeping going then it is up to any tourists to not expect to enjoy what is on offer without paying towards its up keep and the more L/Vs that use them but will not pay the prices ("thats expensive compared to where we normally buy our groceries from") when they have a full fridge and other foods
Posted on 15/11/2020 13:58 by TakethedogalongNot quite the same issue, but I saw a newspaper article the other day about the lorry stack parks in Kent. Can only hope that someone has budgeted for loos for them. Lay-bys on lorry routes are frequently gross. I don’t blame lorry drivers absolutely either, nor MHs.
Posted on 15/11/2020 11:56 by DavidKlyneOften in these discussions there far too greater emphasis placed on the tiny minority of people that break the rules rather than the vast majority that don't. What should not be overlooked is that if there were proper facilities at regular points there would be no excuse for breaking rules. We are constantly informed that it is the local community that pay for these things but don't forget it is the local community that also benefit. That benefit might not be so obvious as the headline spend but it might mean that over time it keeps the local pub or shop open it also contributes to keeping people in jobs and may also create new ones. So a wider view of the cost/benefits needs to be considered.
David
Posted on 15/11/2020 14:23
I hesitate to contradict , but here in Cornwall visitors in motorhomes and caravans contribute far less to the local economy than visitors in other accommodations. Motorhomers and caravanners are not regarded here as big spenders in restaurants, pubs and bars - they tend to cook their own meals using ingredients brought with them or bought in certain supermarkets which are based outside the county, or based overseas. The local butcher in town and the farm shop over the hill say they rarely see them.
Motorhomers and caravanners here do contribute to the local economy by using campsites across the county, and Cornwall council has done its best to support those campsites by setting its face against overnight stays in its car parks. Campsites provide local employment but automated unstaffed Aires would not.
I can well get understand that motorhomers would love to have a network of cheap unstaffed Aires (provided at someone else's expense) across Scotland as well as across Cornwall - but I fail to see they would provide much benefit for the local economy - neither for us or for the Scottish highlands. Motorhomers and caravanners are frugal spenders.
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Posted on 15/11/2020 13:37 by peedeeYou have a very low opinion of the motorhome owning community JVB, .....sad. In a recent survey, those that said they would use facilities, over 96 percent said they would pay.
peedee
Posted on 15/11/2020 14:36
We have had two as i think you know by now , motor caravans and it was not , it seems ,the problems that have come with the growth in M/C hire, lease and ownership of recent years,
We were staying at Folkstone Racecourse site 1998? (now all gone) which was a very busy overnight site 52 arrs none booked one morning in july ,one of the carparks was known as the "mushroom field" as it would fill up overnight from the ferries and tunnel and even then the site warden and racecourse staff had q a problem with toilet waste and grey water being dumped by the course railings, instead of using the dump point , as it was about 100yds from the "mushroom field"
when we were there the cc site warden, who had a very friendly border collie said it was amazing how many queued at office when it opened at 0800 and paid after he had taken the reg numbers of those who came overnight ,the site was very "different" in that before the euro they had to work out how to covert all sorts of european currencies
Posted on 15/11/2020 14:23 by eurortravellerI hesitate to contradict , but here in Cornwall visitors in motorhomes and caravans contribute far less to the local economy than visitors in other accommodations. Motorhomers and caravanners are not regarded here as big spenders in restaurants, pubs and bars - they tend to cook their own meals using ingredients brought with them or bought in certain supermarkets which are based outside the county, or based overseas. The local butcher in town and the farm shop over the hill say they rarely see them.
Motorhomers and caravanners here do contribute to the local economy by using campsites across the county, and Cornwall council has done its best to support those campsites by setting its face against overnight stays in its car parks. Campsites provide local employment but automated unstaffed Aires would not.
I can well get understand that motorhomers would love to have a network of cheap unstaffed Aires (provided at someone else's expense) across Scotland as well as across Cornwall - but I fail to see they would provide much benefit for the local economy - neither for us or for the Scottish highlands. Motorhomers and caravanners are frugal spenders.
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