Des

DavidKlyne replied on 16/09/2020 22:26

Posted on 16/09/2020 22:26

I wonder if anyone else has been watching this series on ITV which ended tonight. It is about  the arrest and conviction of the mass murderer Dennis Nilsen, excellently played, in my view, by David Tennant. It is quite harrowing although the series tends to concentrate on the motives of why he killed. Always interesting to see how the police have to work and how precise they have to be if they don't want a case to collapse. Other main actors were Daniel Mays as the Chief Inspector and Jason Watkins who wrote a biography of Nilsen.

David

WayTwoGo replied on 17/09/2020 08:34

Posted on 16/09/2020 22:26 by DavidKlyne

I wonder if anyone else has been watching this series on ITV which ended tonight. It is about  the arrest and conviction of the mass murderer Dennis Nilsen, excellently played, in my view, by David Tennant. It is quite harrowing although the series tends to concentrate on the motives of why he killed. Always interesting to see how the police have to work and how precise they have to be if they don't want a case to collapse. Other main actors were Daniel Mays as the Chief Inspector and Jason Watkins who wrote a biography of Nilsen.

David

Posted on 17/09/2020 08:34

Yes. Not being much of a TV watcher, I was drawn to this as D Tennant and J Watkins number among my favourite actors.

A very controlled and chilling performance from Tennant - quite different from his "manic frenetic" style in Dr Who (not that I watched, but viewed snippets), even to a degree in his Hamlet. More in the style of his mesmerising Richard II.

Daniel Mays was a good match for him. Carefully balanced and tuned performances.

J Watkins, excellent as always, as Brian Masters, was both intrigued and appalled at the subject of his book. He is very good at playing eccentrics I think.

The tensions between the three main characters, in the police control room, and in the court was almost palpable.

Bleak but powerfully compelling drama.

(Just  a shame it was on ITV.... those b******* adverts.)

hostahousey replied on 17/09/2020 09:08

Posted on 17/09/2020 09:08

Yes really enjoyed parts 1 & 2 still to watch final part .

DavidKlyne replied on 17/09/2020 10:25

Posted on 17/09/2020 10:25

(Just a shame it was on ITV.... those b******* adverts.)

We always record programmes with adverts so we can skip through them. So last three nights we started watching at 9.15pmwink

One thing that particularly struck me about the court scenes is how vulnerable people can be destroyed in the witness box. I appreciate that it's the job of the court to prove the accused was guilty but you do wonder how many people would put themselves through that sort of inquisition?

David

WayTwoGo replied on 17/09/2020 10:39

Posted on 17/09/2020 10:25 by DavidKlyne

(Just a shame it was on ITV.... those b******* adverts.)

We always record programmes with adverts so we can skip through them. So last three nights we started watching at 9.15pmwink

One thing that particularly struck me about the court scenes is how vulnerable people can be destroyed in the witness box. I appreciate that it's the job of the court to prove the accused was guilty but you do wonder how many people would put themselves through that sort of inquisition?

David

Posted on 17/09/2020 10:39

Yes, the evidence has to be tested to prevent mis-carriage of justice (not that it always succeeds).  Did you notice .....

[SPOILER ALERT >>>> if you haven't watched to the end yet>>>> not that the end is in doubt!!!... just a little thing.]

.....  the nod that the defence barrister gave the prosecuting barrister at the end? He knew. But it was his job to defend.

DavidKlyne replied on 18/09/2020 12:43

Posted on 18/09/2020 12:43

There was an interesting follow up documentary last night on Dennis Nilsen. narrated by David Tennant. They interviewed some of the detectives who worked on the case. 

As an aside there have, apparently, been lots of complains about the Des series, not about the graphic content but about the amount of smoking that went on!!!

David

WayTwoGo replied on 19/09/2020 21:53

Posted on 18/09/2020 12:43 by DavidKlyne

There was an interesting follow up documentary last night on Dennis Nilsen. narrated by David Tennant. They interviewed some of the detectives who worked on the case. 

As an aside there have, apparently, been lots of complains about the Des series, not about the graphic content but about the amount of smoking that went on!!!

David

Posted on 19/09/2020 21:53

Yes, watched that. Harrowing.

Noticed the seemingly excessive smoking in the drama. It was of its time I suppose. Why on earth complain???

trellis replied on 20/09/2020 17:19

Posted on 20/09/2020 17:19

Both myself and my wife thoroughly enjoyed the series, thought David Tennant played the part superbly. Couldn't believe that some people complained to Offcom about the graphic details.  Snowflakes are early this year 😀.

DavidKlyne replied on 20/09/2020 20:59

Posted on 20/09/2020 17:19 by trellis

Both myself and my wife thoroughly enjoyed the series, thought David Tennant played the part superbly. Couldn't believe that some people complained to Offcom about the graphic details.  Snowflakes are early this year 😀.

Posted on 20/09/2020 20:59

Don't think people complained about the graphic details as you say but the amount of smoking being portrayed. In 40 years the attitudes to smoking have changed out of all recognition. Although I have never smoked both my parents did and even to me it seem excessive the amount of smoking going on although I imagine to was a pretty accurate picture of the time?

David

trellis replied on 22/09/2020 20:52

Posted on 22/09/2020 20:52

Sorry David I beg to differ . Every report I've read online relating to Offcom / Des , only mention the graphic details upsetting people , and not the smoking . To be honest it's laughable that people would complain about either .The truth behind the crime, or the smoking that was so prevalent then . Still a damn fine series .😁.

EmilysDad replied on 22/09/2020 22:39