Co 2
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davetommo replied on 10/10/2021 19:35
Posted on 09/10/2021 21:18 by TinwheelerWe didnt have post codes, computers or mechanised sorting in the 1960s. Parcels took days and days to arrive and the whole operation was labour intensive.
Whilst providing more employment may be seen as a good thing, the costs of running such an inefficient system would be prohibitive today and the costs would be passed on to the customer.
There is no comparison between today’s methods and those of 60 years ago. Forget the past.
Tinwheeler replied on 10/10/2021 19:50
Posted on 10/10/2021 19:35 by davetommoSo is 2 vans delivering 2 parcels more efficient than 1 van delivering 2 parcels. Plus they were all collected one day sorted out overnight put into loading bays for the various towns and delivered the next day. All without computers and postcodes.
Takethedogalong replied on 10/10/2021 19:51
Posted on 10/10/2021 19:35 by davetommoSo is 2 vans delivering 2 parcels more efficient than 1 van delivering 2 parcels. Plus they were all collected one day sorted out overnight put into loading bays for the various towns and delivered the next day. All without computers and postcodes.
Posted on 10/10/2021 19:51
Do you really think that the amount of parcels/orders were similar to what they are in this age of online ordering? There are only 10 houses on our little street, but it’s not uncommon to have a postal delivery, a parcel van, and another 3-4 delivery vans dropping of items each day here. I ordered a couple of cables from Apple last week. Placed order at 10.30pm, by 11am next morning, I was unwrapping them. It’s a different World.
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davetommo replied on 10/10/2021 19:59
Posted on 10/10/2021 19:51 by TakethedogalongDo you really think that the amount of parcels/orders were similar to what they are in this age of online ordering? There are only 10 houses on our little street, but it’s not uncommon to have a postal delivery, a parcel van, and another 3-4 delivery vans dropping of items each day here. I ordered a couple of cables from Apple last week. Placed order at 10.30pm, by 11am next morning, I was unwrapping them. It’s a different World.
Takethedogalong replied on 10/10/2021 20:11
Posted on 10/10/2021 20:11
We get a lot of electric vehicles delivering stuff. I don’t have the commitment to the debate to analyse the co2 savings taking these into account to be honest.
Personally, I think this country is merely tinkering round the edges, we can give up this, that and the other, but the overall infrastructure, will to change, and proper understanding of what it’s going to take to ensure future generations have a decent life is somewhat lacking in those that make the decisions. There is no long term view, it’s all about short term fudges.
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brue replied on 11/10/2021 09:25
Posted on 10/10/2021 19:59 by davetommoI was trying to point out how there is double the co2 emissions when 2 vans come with 1 parcel each from the same retailer when they are ordered at the same time. I thought we were trying to keep co2 emissions down.
replied on 11/10/2021 15:38
Posted on 10/10/2021 20:11 by TakethedogalongWe get a lot of electric vehicles delivering stuff. I don’t have the commitment to the debate to analyse the co2 savings taking these into account to be honest.
Personally, I think this country is merely tinkering round the edges, we can give up this, that and the other, but the overall infrastructure, will to change, and proper understanding of what it’s going to take to ensure future generations have a decent life is somewhat lacking in those that make the decisions. There is no long term view, it’s all about short term fudges.
LLM replied on 11/10/2021 16:23
Posted on 11/10/2021 15:38 byWe are but a small island with a small population of less that 70 million in a world of nearly 8 billion. Our best efforts even if we manage to go carbon neutral will be but a drop in the ocean unless we can get the likes of India, China, the USA, Russia, most of South America and Southern Africa, and the whole of Europe to do the same.
Posted on 11/10/2021 16:23
Last Saturday an argument was put to me. I neither agree nor disagree with it as I simply don’t know.
The gist was that the problem with the world is obvious – too many humans. It was followed by the theory, or maybe suggestion, that the Chinese had tried to reduce their population by limiting families’ to just one child. This hadn’t worked and they were now looking at the other end of the human spectrum. SARS-COV-2 was the result of an experiment to engineer a virus to eliminate the older and weaker members of society substantially reducing the population. Unfortunately an early version escaped the lab and we all know the result. A conspiracy theory, rubbish, bad idea, good idea, workable solution to our planetary crisis, just plain BS? I have no idea and not enough knowledge to express an opinion but it did make me wonder if the world problem is over population by humans.
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