Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked

Whittakerr replied on 09/11/2020 12:10

Posted on 09/11/2020 12:10

Some good news. It seems one of the trial vaccines offers 90% protection against the virus. The developers have applied for an emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month. UK has an order in place for 30m doses.

Whittakerr replied on 10/11/2020 10:15

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:15

I heard Matt Hancock this morning say it has to be stored at -80 until a few hours before being used. What is meant by a few hours is anyone's guess at the moment, no doubt things will become clearer as more information becomes available.

Liquid nitrogen, used very commonly, boils at -196 degrees so keeping the vaccine at -80 shouldn't pose too many problems.

DavidKlyne replied on 10/11/2020 10:18

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:18

On Newsnight last night they said that the manufacturers had designed special freezer boxes for transportation of the vaccine. We probably have too little real information at the moment. I would have thought if they injected at that temperature your arm would freeze!!!!

David

Tammygirl replied on 10/11/2020 10:27

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:27

From one report I saw it says that GPs have been warned they would be required to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week to immunise all that are required surprised the payment they would receive for each individual is a little over £12.50 (£2 more than the flu as more paperwork and follow ups are required) 

My son (in the Army) tells me that the Armed forces have been put on standby to 'assist' with the vaccination programme. The logistics I would think are going to be a headache due to the low level temp that the vaccine has to be kept at. IMO many rural/local GPs surgeries will not be suitable, it will require a dedicated vaccination team and facility. 

Were are 5th on the list so hoping we can get ours done in time to be able to go to Lanzarote beginning of March but that is probably wishful thinking,  maybe in time for France/Spain end of April laughinglaughing

DEBSC replied on 10/11/2020 10:28

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:28

Once we had received a text from our Dr surgery for flu jabs we booked in quickly, we still had to wait a month for the appointment. A week after we had booked the appointment we received another general text saying they had now run out of vaccine, and if no appointment booked already then try the Chemist! Let's hope this one, when it comes, goes better.

LLM replied on 10/11/2020 10:30

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:30

Seems to be a lot of confusion about.  I read somewhere that it was said to be minus eighteen, not minus eighty.  Minus eighteen being the correct temperature for a normal freezer.  

moulesy replied on 10/11/2020 10:34

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:34

Our surgery is dreadful for trying to get an appointment, face to face or by phone. In fact you have to have a great deal of patience even to speak to a receptionist by phone to try for an appointment! But the one thing they have got right is organising flu jabs, albeit meaning a drive across town to a school car park, but once there, slightly ahead of time, we drove through within 5 minutes. Hopefully that organisation will be repeated if and when the time comes for these vaccinations.

We have a river cruise booked for late May and this news,  together with the likelihood of testing at airports has left us very hopeful! smile

JVB66 replied on 10/11/2020 10:34

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:28 by DEBSC

Once we had received a text from our Dr surgery for flu jabs we booked in quickly, we still had to wait a month for the appointment. A week after we had booked the appointment we received another general text saying they had now run out of vaccine, and if no appointment booked already then try the Chemist! Let's hope this one, when it comes, goes better.

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:34

We have for the past couple of years used our local Pharmacist for our flu jabs much quicker and no queues ,so lets hope as reported they will be involved  

problem that seems to be if this German vacine does get approval will be the low temp it will need to be stored at

LLM replied on 10/11/2020 10:36

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:27 by Tammygirl

From one report I saw it says that GPs have been warned they would be required to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week to immunise all that are required surprised the payment they would receive for each individual is a little over £12.50 (£2 more than the flu as more paperwork and follow ups are required) 

My son (in the Army) tells me that the Armed forces have been put on standby to 'assist' with the vaccination programme. The logistics I would think are going to be a headache due to the low level temp that the vaccine has to be kept at. IMO many rural/local GPs surgeries will not be suitable, it will require a dedicated vaccination team and facility. 

Were are 5th on the list so hoping we can get ours done in time to be able to go to Lanzarote beginning of March but that is probably wishful thinking,  maybe in time for France/Spain end of April laughinglaughing

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:36

surprised Has wee Burney pre-ordered any doses? laughing

EasyT replied on 10/11/2020 10:38

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:27 by Tammygirl

From one report I saw it says that GPs have been warned they would be required to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week to immunise all that are required surprised the payment they would receive for each individual is a little over £12.50 (£2 more than the flu as more paperwork and follow ups are required) 

My son (in the Army) tells me that the Armed forces have been put on standby to 'assist' with the vaccination programme. The logistics I would think are going to be a headache due to the low level temp that the vaccine has to be kept at. IMO many rural/local GPs surgeries will not be suitable, it will require a dedicated vaccination team and facility. 

Were are 5th on the list so hoping we can get ours done in time to be able to go to Lanzarote beginning of March but that is probably wishful thinking,  maybe in time for France/Spain end of April laughinglaughing

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:38

From one report I saw it says that GPs have been warned they would be required to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week to immunise all that are required   the payment they would receive for each individual is a little over £12.50 (£2 more than the flu as more paperwork and follow ups are required) 

I doubt that the flow of vaccine will keep them busy for long

Were are 5th on the list so hoping we can get ours done in time to be able to go to Lanzarote beginning of March but that is probably wishful thinking,  maybe in time for France/Spain end of April   

March of which rear Tammy? wink

 

Tinwheeler replied on 10/11/2020 10:39

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:30 by LLM

Seems to be a lot of confusion about.  I read somewhere that it was said to be minus eighteen, not minus eighty.  Minus eighteen being the correct temperature for a normal freezer.  

Posted on 10/11/2020 10:39

I'm not so sure as a bit of research reveals that other vaccines also require very low storage temps. 

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