Is Road Pricing on its Way?

DavidKlyne replied on 04/02/2022 21:03

Posted on 04/02/2022 21:03

It seems it could be, according to the RAC Foundation here https://www.racfoundation.org/media-centre/no-viable-alternative-to-road-pricing-say-mps Apparently the Government faces a 35 billion black hole as we move to electric vehicles as currently they don't pay road tax. The House of Parliament Transport Committee have produced a report on finding alternatives to road tax, see here https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/8754/documents/88692/default/

Personally I don't have a problem with the idea of road pricing as it could be a lot fairer. Charges could be varied, I assume, according to how busy and how congested the particular roads are?

It will be a big decision for the Government to make, lets hope they get it right!!!

David

JVB66 replied on 05/02/2022 09:06

Posted on 05/02/2022 09:06

We already have a tracker based insurance policy with our car at 2.8 pence per mile on top of the basic £145 per year ,it has with our annual mileage worked out much cheaper for uslaughing

Not yet available for PVC or motor caravansfrown

The road pricing idea has to be the best way of recouping the loss of income from "Free" use of roads by some vehicleswink

JimE replied on 05/02/2022 09:13

Posted on 05/02/2022 09:13

I would welcome road pricing just as long as the revenue is actually re-invested in maintaining the UK road network, which is in an appalling state currently and has been for some years.

The current model of zero RFL for some EVs is unsustainable in the long term - IMHO a charge per mile is much fairer.

MikeyA replied on 05/02/2022 09:32

Posted on 05/02/2022 09:32

It would be much simpler if we returned to the idea that all cars paid a RFL, electric cars being given a discount.

Tracker based charging just seems far too complicated.

 

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JVB66 replied on 05/02/2022 11:56

Posted on 05/02/2022 09:32 by MikeyA

It would be much simpler if we returned to the idea that all cars paid a RFL, electric cars being given a discount.

Tracker based charging just seems far too complicated.

 

Posted on 05/02/2022 11:56

Works fine on our carcool

Also seems to work on parcel deliveries surprised

DavidKlyne replied on 05/02/2022 13:06

Posted on 05/02/2022 13:06

Currently VED is charged by how much the vehicle pollutes via their emissions. Technically EV's don't have emissions in the same sense of the word which would suggest there would have to be a flat rate if you continued with some sort of annual charge. The advantage of road pricing is that it can used for many purposes. It could be used to control congestion by charging more on congested roads, even if that was only a certain times of the day. Would there be a need for separate clean ait zones or could the charging for those be incorporated into road charging? Would road charging actually need to apply to all roads, or could it just apply to inner city and busy trunk routes. There are many options. I think the RAC suggested that a road charging scheme should have a neutral cost to road users rather than being used as an extra revenue raising opportunity. We will have to wait and see how that works out!!!

David

SeasideBill replied on 05/02/2022 15:41

Posted on 05/02/2022 11:07 by

Tracker based charging works well for HGV's across much of continental europe and has done for quite some time.  There is no reason to think it would not work here, but getting the infrastructure and vehicle born equipment in place may be a long process and a challenge.  However, it could then charge visitors as well so reducing our costs.  

Posted on 05/02/2022 15:41

I’m slightly nervous about technology based systems, there’s always some criminal element out there who will one step ahead and exploit it. I remember when the London congestion charge was introduced I regularly used to get a fine for a car bearing my reg plate, but had never visited London. Luckily they didn’t match my registration to the same model & colour of car! I realise tracker based systems are more sophisticated than that, but they can probably be hacked and cloned.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/02/2022 17:12

Posted on 05/02/2022 15:41 by SeasideBill

I’m slightly nervous about technology based systems, there’s always some criminal element out there who will one step ahead and exploit it. I remember when the London congestion charge was introduced I regularly used to get a fine for a car bearing my reg plate, but had never visited London. Luckily they didn’t match my registration to the same model & colour of car! I realise tracker based systems are more sophisticated than that, but they can probably be hacked and cloned.

Posted on 05/02/2022 17:12

What could they gain from it & how🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

ABM replied on 05/02/2022 17:17

Posted on 05/02/2022 17:17

What could they gain from it and how  ??

About 60 quid a pothole, levied on car repairers, that's how much ( at least ! ) and how !money-mouth

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