Money saving ideas.

DEBSC replied on 01/08/2022 08:59

Posted on 01/08/2022 08:59

Ive just been scrolling through the ‘Discussions’ and reading how some are switching to CLs and not travelling so far in an attempt to save money. With the hike in gas and electric prices this will need to be thought about at home as well, especially as winter approaches. We have been away for 3 weeks but even with no one here our electricity usage has, surprisingly, been creeping up. This will focus me to emptying the chest freezer and defrosting it, as that may be the biggest culprit. I’m also scouring recipe books in an attempt to become more proficient at making many more meals in the slow cooker, double batches then freezing some, in an attempt not to keep putting the oven on. The washing machine never goes on now unless it is really full. And, living in the South West, where water prices are astronomical, it’s always showers over baths. Anyone else got any tips, that might be useful.

SteveL replied on 05/08/2022 12:33

Posted on 05/08/2022 12:05 by KjellNN

I remember we had a credit card back in the mid 70s.......Access, your flexible friend.........so they were around at the time of the 15% mortgage interest.

Posted on 05/08/2022 12:33

They were indeed. The bank sent me one without me asking  when I was a student in 71/74. I cut it up straight away, seemed the sensible thing to do. I didn’t ask for one again until the early 80’s and I wanted to buy a  ZX Spectrum computer and it was more than the bank guarantee card. Not a problem if you were buying a washing machine or something, as they had time to clear the cheque, but of course we were taking the computer away with us. Had a credit card ever since and a computer of one sort or another.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/08/2022 13:05

Posted on 05/08/2022 12:33 by SteveL

They were indeed. The bank sent me one without me asking  when I was a student in 71/74. I cut it up straight away, seemed the sensible thing to do. I didn’t ask for one again until the early 80’s and I wanted to buy a  ZX Spectrum computer and it was more than the bank guarantee card. Not a problem if you were buying a washing machine or something, as they had time to clear the cheque, but of course we were taking the computer away with us. Had a credit card ever since and a computer of one sort or another.

Posted on 05/08/2022 13:05

Yes, Steve, I remember unsolicited Access cards being sent out in the early 70s and the issuers were later rapped over the knuckles. It was at a time of rampant inflation with sky high interest rates.

ZX Spectrum, eh. I had an Amstrad PCW.

InaD replied on 05/08/2022 13:06

Posted on 05/08/2022 12:05 by KjellNN

I remember we had a credit card back in the mid 70s.......Access, your flexible friend.........so they were around at the time of the 15% mortgage interest.

Posted on 05/08/2022 13:06

So did we; ours was a Barclaycard though, and even then we always paid it off in full each month, despite that 15% mortgage interest. 

InaD replied on 05/08/2022 13:10

Posted on 05/08/2022 13:10

The Earth would have to turn flat before I gave up my Dishwasher. Had once since first married and loathe pot washing.

Interesting how we're all different; never had a dishwasher in my life, but I really don't mind washing up, doesn't bother me at all laughing

vbfg replied on 05/08/2022 13:25

Posted on 05/08/2022 11:05 by JohnM20

It really is a matter of getting priorities right. Many of us, I'm sure, will remember when mortgage interest rates were 15%. Yes, 15%. We managed, we decided which expenditure was the more important. The mortgage came top of the list, we didn't want to lose our house. But we coped. If we couldn't afford it we didn't have it. Credit cards hadn't been invented although major purchases such as a washing machine could be bought on hire purchase. We were far more aware of the value of money and soon learned how to manage it once we started work. The end result, as far as I and my wife are concerned, is that now in retirement we have a very nice house and garden, a caravan of course which allows several holidays a year, a decent car albeit 7 years old and, very importantly, no debts. We are still of a mind that if we can't afford it we don't have it until we can and also consider carefully any purchases that we make. I'd like a newer car and a better camera but what we have already more than adequately does the job. 

We had one holiday a year, staying in the UK, frequently reducing the cost by going with my in-laws. We didn't have mobile phones, iPads or anything similar. They hadn't been invented. Our TV had very few channels but from which we could easily find something interesting to watch, or we made our own entertainment. We didn't have or need dozens of streaming services. We had one modest car which got us around with no problems. In the very early days, early 1970's, we didn't even have a phone in the house, we used the phone box up the road. Tattoos were almost never seen except for a few people in the services. Now, it looks as though more than half the younger population has them and, I understand, they are not cheap. 

To my mind, the younger generation spend far more money as a percentage of their income on things which are not needed, except in their mind. They are frivolous unnecessary luxuries.

I know a lady in her late forties quite well, a single mother,  who has told me that she goes to the supermarket actively looking for bargains. There is nothing at all wrong with that but her reason for doing so is that she has to pay for her latest i-phone, her 12 year old son's i-phone and several TV streaming services because, in her words, " Me and Ollie (her son) like to binge watch". If ever I have asked her if she saw a particular programme on terrestrial TV she tells me "I never watch those channels". I don't think she is alone in this mindset.

Speaking to the lady's father many years ago, I commented that he and his wife (we knew them well enough to talk candidly) appeared to be trying to keep up with the Jones's. His reply was "We are the Jones's". Perhaps that is where his daughter got her financial education. Soon after, he had to hand his car back as he couldn't afford it.

One day I am sure that real life will catch up with her and many others like her and they will come down with such a bump but grumbling as they do so that the state should give them more financial assistance. 

The answer is to get priorities right. Simple!

 

Posted on 05/08/2022 13:25

I totally agree with your comments which is why I cannot drum up a lot of sympathy for many people who are supposedly in poverty!  Some people obviously are in dire straits and need assistance and help, but many others need to rethink what they spend their money on.

Bakers2 replied on 05/08/2022 14:02

Posted on 05/08/2022 14:02

Oh yes remember tge mortgage interest rate at 17.5%, and I remember us parting company with NatWest Bank at that time. As someone has said interest rates changed rapidly and often. We kept getting letters telling us we were overdrawn. Couldn't understand it, no mobile/online banking so a trip into the branch, remember them? Turns out they were paying our mortgage twice a month 😱😱😱. It was hard enough once a month.

We kept up with the mortgage increases and when they eventually began to drop we didn't put it down. It knocked a lot of time off the mortgage length. I was surprised that we didn't have to drop as the children cost more, generally robbing Peter to pay Paul. Budgeting by putting money away for quarterly bills on a monthly basis allowed that. Interest free credit - always saved for the item before buying this way, then tried to pay back from salary but if we hit bad times we could withdraw a payment from savings. Was always taught from an early age save half spend half! My in-laws liked it as they had savings, shame its not the same for us. Credit cards are great but only when paid off fully monthly or budgeted for over a couple of months. I still know when to add a purchase for longest 'free' time.

Luckily our offspring have sensible finance ideas, some of their friends didn't!

I have a friend who constantly pays for her daughter's, in her 40's, food shopping, she's married, working as does her husband on good salaries one child, I have to bite my tongue when she also clears her credit card when it reaches the limit. Lots of holidays expensive, to me, days out etc. I can't see how that helps anyone, one day mum won't be there to bail her out.... So like others I can't automatically summon sympathy for the poverty BUT that doesn't mean there aren't folk, in very important key jobs, who can't keep the wolf from the door.

That said I'm doing very well at spending at the moment and am very grateful that I can. Its still being thought about as that's capital projects, not day to day living - which I still concentrate hard on. But I'm doing my bit for the economy too st tge moment.

As an aside, having a large recess made into a cupboard as I type. Materials budgeted for June but purchased today, mdf sheets were £27.50 now £37.50 and all other wood and the door similar increase, so about a 25% increase overall for materials 😱😱.

 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 05/08/2022 15:40

Posted on 05/08/2022 15:40

I am being a tad careful of lacking sympathy for those younger than us at the moment. Anyone who took on a mortgage a decade ago, without any idea of how this country could be in this state it is ten years on, is going to struggle, and will have to take a long hard look at finances. Some folks were in serious financial straits before this, many through no real fault of their own. 

This country has sleep walked, jumped, been pushed into some profound changes that are having serious repercussions for all of us without the cushion of super wealth. I can’t help but think some of our trials are self inflicted down the last decades.

Graydjames replied on 05/08/2022 18:25

Posted on 01/08/2022 10:40 by DavidKlyne

I have an App on my phone where I can monitor electric and gas usage on a daily basis when we are away. Obviously at this time of year we don't use any gas but the electric ticks along. Currently, on average, we are using about £2 worth of energy a day whilst we are at home. I imagine that figure is nearer a £1 a day when we are away. What I can't quite work out is whether the daily standing charge is included in the Smart Meter reading? Will obviously be a very different picture as we head into winter!!!

David

 

Posted on 05/08/2022 18:25

Even for the summer £2 a day is pretty good going I would have thought. Excepting a few months when I was in France, my daily charges have not been below £2 since September 2012! For the summer months in 2021 (26 May to 25 September) I averaged £2.93 a day. This year so far, 26 May to 24 July my average is £4.51! My average daily cost for the last 12 months is £4.04 and that includes a lot of days away in my motorhome.

I admit to being a little extravagant with energy and recognise that I have to start to be more prudent about it. Even so you are going some to keep within £2 a day. My figures are based on actual bills. 

DavidKlyne replied on 05/08/2022 20:40

Posted on 05/08/2022 18:25 by Graydjames

Even for the summer £2 a day is pretty good going I would have thought. Excepting a few months when I was in France, my daily charges have not been below £2 since September 2012! For the summer months in 2021 (26 May to 25 September) I averaged £2.93 a day. This year so far, 26 May to 24 July my average is £4.51! My average daily cost for the last 12 months is £4.04 and that includes a lot of days away in my motorhome.

I admit to being a little extravagant with energy and recognise that I have to start to be more prudent about it. Even so you are going some to keep within £2 a day. My figures are based on actual bills. 

Posted on 05/08/2022 20:40

The problem is that we are often away for all of the month or part of the month so it's sometimes difficult to get a accurate picture of our energy use. The June to July bill was £86 and we were not there for all of that month. I also didn't account for the VAT element which is not included in the Smart Meter reading. So I reckon a more accurate figure is approaching £3 a day. I hate to think how much that will be when the heating goes on, probably double or maybe approaching treble, we will have to wait an see. Octopus are predicting a peak bill of £256 for January and that is, of course, without any future increases!!!

David

KjellNN replied on 05/08/2022 21:12

Posted on 05/08/2022 21:12

Our June/July bill was £58.11, and we were only here for 7 of the 30 days it covered.

We did however do a lot of washing after we got home.

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