Badger culling to be stopped.

moulesy replied on 05/03/2020 15:48

Posted on 05/03/2020 15:48

Some good news to come out this week at last. The government has decided to call a halt to the barbaric slaughter of badgers and replace it with a vaccination regime. Hopefully this will be succesful and both sides of the debate will be satisfied!  smile

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/05/badger-cull-phased-out-replaced-vaccinations-bovine-tb-england

JVB66 replied on 05/03/2020 20:13

Posted on 05/03/2020 20:01 by moulesy

I have no clue what you are driving at David - which ex moderator are you talking about? I realise you are just trying to get an argument going but I'm not going to oblige you!  Please just stick to the topic of the thread. frown

Posted on 05/03/2020 20:13

I have noticed that recently,  it seems, with  some postersundecided

Takethedogalong replied on 05/03/2020 20:17

Posted on 05/03/2020 20:17

Its not a conspiracy theory, it’s a long reported fact that some animals found dead on roads hadn’t died as a result of road traffic incidents. It’s not a new or particularly recent phenomena, lots of different news sources. 

moulesy replied on 05/03/2020 20:20

Posted on 05/03/2020 20:11 by

There is a conspiracy theory put about by cranks that those dead badgers are placed there by farmers after illegally killing them and it was strongly suggested by one ex moderator here that that was the case. If you have another theory I would be happy to hear it. Personally I think they have been run over and bounced either to the verge or the central reservation.

Posted on 05/03/2020 20:20

"Cranks"? If that's your attitude I've no wish to discuss this with you further - I note you haven't named the "ex moderator" -  "central reservation"? Not "always" on the side of the road then?  undecided

brue replied on 05/03/2020 21:08

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:08

It is a bit of an urban myth about badgers being placed on road sides, who would want to pick one up in the first place...thinks fleas, lice and a rather strong odour! wink

moulesy replied on 05/03/2020 21:11

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:11

"It is a bit of an urban myth about badgers being placed on road sides, who would want to pick one up in the first place...thinks fleas, lice and a rather strong odour! "

That's rather unfair on many farmers, brue!  laughing

Wherenext replied on 05/03/2020 21:24

Posted on 05/03/2020 20:33 by Tinwheeler

Good post, WN. A well balanced summary. 👍🏻

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:24

Thank you TW

I do hate to see any animal suffer, whether it's a badger or a cow, and one has to feel a great deal of sympathy for the farmer who will have a huge financial and, let's not forget, emotional hit on seeing his herd put down. I still feel though that this new initiative may help both sides.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/03/2020 21:32

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:24 by Wherenext

Thank you TW

I do hate to see any animal suffer, whether it's a badger or a cow, and one has to feel a great deal of sympathy for the farmer who will have a huge financial and, let's not forget, emotional hit on seeing his herd put down. I still feel though that this new initiative may help both sides.

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:32

I’m with you there. I have friends in the farming community who have suffered. It helps if we can see both sides of the story and, yes, let’s hope this move is to everyone's benefit. 

safety replied on 05/03/2020 21:57

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:57

most of the people talking about badgers know very little about them.  They do more damage to wildlife than any other animal.  They have destroyed most of the Hedgehogs, nothing on the ground is safe from them. Bumble Bees are their favorite in summer Ground nesting birds are very rare now, they hunt the earth worms every night across the fields, worms are the basis of cropped land . What do you think they live on in winter?

So I presume you want many more Badgers than there are now at the expense of all the other ground birds and animals. This would go down in history as a huge mistake. Only humans control the number of Badgers, if  they are not controlled they will ruin the countryside.

So lets have an answer do you want all Badgers, or do you want a mixture of all wild life, there is no way you can have both                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 06/03/2020 07:50

Posted on 05/03/2020 21:57 by safety

most of the people talking about badgers know very little about them.  They do more damage to wildlife than any other animal.  They have destroyed most of the Hedgehogs, nothing on the ground is safe from them. Bumble Bees are their favorite in summer Ground nesting birds are very rare now, they hunt the earth worms every night across the fields, worms are the basis of cropped land . What do you think they live on in winter?

So I presume you want many more Badgers than there are now at the expense of all the other ground birds and animals. This would go down in history as a huge mistake. Only humans control the number of Badgers, if  they are not controlled they will ruin the countryside.

So lets have an answer do you want all Badgers, or do you want a mixture of all wild life, there is no way you can have both                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Posted on 06/03/2020 07:50

What you are talking about there is-nature, it has a hierarchy & food chain, the Badger being high up that food chain in the natural world. To slaughter one part of that natural food chain to save farmers money is not natural it is greed. Humans have destroyed & meddled with most of the natural world because we abuse our position of being the apex predator. Nature will balance its world, we will always destroy that natural balance thru greed.

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