Aires in the UK

Made a lot worse this year because many toilets are closed. Sand dunes are best avoided until the autumn storms have done their work.

Oh! please just dont go there

I think our councils cover most if not more than you suggest, but it would appear this is not good enough.

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Clearly it isn't enough. But if the Council (and I suppose residents) want to stop it they need a plan that operates 24/7. If those motorhome shouldn't be parked there why have they not been fined? Here in MK we don't really have a problem with motorhomes but we do have a problem sometimes with travellers because we have a lot of open space. They are always moved on within 24 hours because the police and council work together and a considerable amount of money has been spent to prevent trespass by building ditches and earth mounds to discourage further incursions. It seems to work here.

Clearly it isn't enough.

It will never be enough for some David. £6 or £7 all day parking by the sea and ignore restrictions. or pay to park for 4 hours at £5/£7 and later pay £15 to £25 for a site for sleeping because overnight camping not allowed on the car park.   

I am rapidly approaching 68 years of age. When I was in my mid forties I decided that I would pack in work at 53 and use savings and interest to carry me over until I could claim a works pension at 60. At around mid forties I probably expected to have at least £180k savings by 53. My intention was to downsize to a semi and have the garden as mainly grass and shrubs border. Pay for grass cutting and shrub trimming. In my sustainability calculations I used CMC prices for a single occupant. I did intend to travel in Europe and use other sites. I might well have boon docked on occasion. My intention was to use a home base for a couple of months a year. Would I have taken advantage of car parks on the sea front? Probably on occasion

In spite of the name change, the Club is still stuck in a rut and in reality still thinks its future lies in providing long stay facilties which are just not required by the motorhome owner. In spite of what others have said, without evidence I might add, the Club is not prospering.  As shown by the last set of accounts.  membership is declining as well as profitability. Ignoring CV19, this may well be set to continue unless the Club makes more changes to provide for the increasing use of motorhomes and camper vans.

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They are always moved on within 24 hours because the police and council work together and a considerable amount of money has been spent to prevent trespass by building ditches and earth mounds to discourage further incursions. It seems to work here.

Yup LC do all of this, including concrete posts, but these chancers must have cut the lock of the gate and the height barrier, and believe me they are quite chunky padlocks and chains, and as far as i can tell they were not travellers.

t will never be enough for some David. £6 or £7 all day parking by the sea and ignore restrictions. or pay to park for 4 hours at £5/£7 and later pay £15 to £25 for a site for sleeping because overnight camping not allowed on the car park.

Lets be clear here, the LC's are not trying to ban MH's/camper vans, in fact in some areas parking is free with no height barriers, but these spaces are sometimes abused by MH owners, e.g. park in one put your chairs out in another, what is not allowed is overnight habitation, this used to be ok, but unfortunately the minority spoilt it for the majority, e.g. rubbish left, broken public toilets, late night parties.  But i have to say you do not have to be a MH owner to contribute to most of this in our new covid era.

In spite of the name change, the Club is still stuck in a rut and in reality still thinks its future lies in providing long stay facilties which are just not required by the motorhome owner. 

When we had a caravan we used to generally spend a week on a site. Now with a MH we tend to spend 2 / 4 days before moving on. Fortunately the CAMC permit any length of stay up to the 21 day limit. The prices may not be those of traditional Aires and arrival times are controlled, but there is nothing to preventing MH owners using them in a similar manner if they want.

Personally I think if someone did set up a campingcarpark style set up, as we used in France, prices would be near the £20 a night mark rather than the 12€ of over there.

At this time there is no evidence ,that what ever any council or clubs do to "accommodate" the increase in motor caravan ownership,in the way some want  , will stop the problems caused by some owners /  leasers,

As posted earlier the cc have increased membership by over 3000 since lockdown eased, JK may? have had the inormation from the club of the breakdown of type of LVs the latest members ,    although i do understand that most dealers have about run out of stocks of pre owned LVs

The latest very vocal NC500 route residents seem to follow that to be the case

I am supprised if the same  (although not yet as popular ) is not  starting about the route around Snowdonia that the  Wales tourist board is promoting

Personally I think if someone did set up a campingcarpark style set up, as we used in France, prices would be near the £20 a night mark rather than the 12€ of over there.

Canterbury, £3.50p.n.

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