Aires in the UK

I tend to agree with WTG's approach above.

Most of the petitions have failed for several reason, the main one being the demand that Aires should be provided as a right. There needs to be a much more subtle approach. It won't happen overnight but there is a need to cultivate relationships with tourist boards both local and nationally. I somehow doubt either of the Clubs will come on board because of the potential loss of income. Initially it would be a good idea to identify say half a dozen locations where such overnight solutions could be sited and then try to bring interested parties together. If that strategy was successful it would provide a lot of facts and information to extend further. Apparently Portmeirion has recently open a motorway parking area which can be used overnight. I see a potential for this sort of thing at other attractions but they need convincing that the investment would be worthwhile. I can think of many large National Trust properties where a small Aire could enhance income to the Trust if they could be persuaded. I think you have to start with fresh ideas compared to what has been suggested in the past. A bit pointless trying to replicate what is available abroad as most that need persuading are unfamiliar with the concept.

David

I can’t think of one single service the club provides that a member is barred from taking advantage of which would be the case for caravanners in the scenario you suggested.

Motor home service/waste disposal points, with regard to caravanners!!

Made sense to me... insist on Bristol campsite or nothing, or moderate plans if an aire has a better chance of succeeding.

I don’t know the finer points of the proposed site, but it seems there is some planning history which doesn’t bode well for future proposals in the mould of Baltic Wharf. Bristol likes to see itself as a young, creative, dynamic and cultured city. Any planning proposals need to press those buttons, and the stereotypical image of the traditional camping site with folks sat in awnings drinking wine and bbq burgers won’t cut it. 

The difference being, Nellie, that I don’t believe caravanners are barred from using them if they have a need but the reality is that caravans have no use for MHSPs. Whereas aires set up just for MHs would not be available for caravans.

I don’t recall MH-ers calling for the provision of MHSPs and the points aren't a necessity and we could manage without as we do on CLs. However, the club choses to provide them and, as they stop MHs blocking ordinary service points, they do actually serve caravanners as well as MH-ers 👍🏻.

Well, I’m glad it makes sense to you 😀

Quite a lot of campsites in Europe (privately owned and municipal) have established night stops for motor caravans. There is a service point usually near the entrance and motor caravanners can use the site facilities. The pitches are smaller, a bit more like a spacious car park, Fees are low. Electic hook ups are not included. These night stops provide the service being requested by the OP. UK caravan sites are perfectly able to do this if they feel it is viable. As for motor caravanners bringing income to the community, I think this is probably a theory with no tangible substance to it at all. 

Aires in UK may happen sometime. Local authorities do provide some provision. If we are ta;king town areas then, during the day a parking space might generate £10 or much more. Would motor homers wish  to pay for 2.5 spaces given their length for some and also safety clearance. If we look away from towns then is the income for the space worthwhile? If it was why are entrepreneurs  not jumping on the bandwagon?