Booking Fees for the Honeypots

fatbelly replied on 24/01/2017 08:51

Posted on 24/01/2017 08:51

Hi, On Jan 2nd we tried to book 2 nights in December at one of the so called "honeypot sites" (Rowntree Park). But its fully booked for the whole year and I couldn't even find 1 night in December.  I like the CC policy of no fee when you book and think it should stay, but with a few site exceptions.

I've no doubt that as the year goes by a small number of people who have booked RP will just cancel with no penalty but  member's like myself who wish to book and will not cancel lose out.

What do people think about putting booking fees on the 2 or 3 honeypot sites to ensure that people who book uphold their booking. As I have said I think the overall policy of no booking fees for the vast majority of sites works and should be kept. 

N1805 replied on 25/01/2017 19:41

Posted on 25/01/2017 19:41

We know/accept the rules of the club when we join & I personally would not want to see deposits introduced for any reason.  IMHO it would probably be disadvantageous to members with a tight budgets who having booked use the lead up time to save for that holiday.  

IanH replied on 25/01/2017 19:45

Posted on 25/01/2017 19:45

The CC certainly are very good at getting weekend bookings. The lack of any commitment from those booking does that.

Whether those bookings all show up (or cancel just outside the 72 hour cut-off) is a very different matter. Eye witness evidence of many sites would indicate that they don't.

The CC of course, refuse to release figures for these cancellations. I wonder why?

IanH replied on 25/01/2017 19:47

Posted on 25/01/2017 19:47

Let's be honest here........the only reason many people don't want deposits is that they aren't sure that they will actually go.

IanH replied on 25/01/2017 19:49

Posted on 25/01/2017 16:01 by cyberyacht

The simple solution is the lodgement of card details with the club and then any fee/penalty can be deducted accordingly. It won't happen, of course, as the club don't do simple solutions as evidenced by this website.

Posted on 25/01/2017 19:49

A very good compromise solution.

IanH replied on 25/01/2017 19:49

Posted on 25/01/2017 16:01 by cyberyacht

The simple solution is the lodgement of card details with the club and then any fee/penalty can be deducted accordingly. It won't happen, of course, as the club don't do simple solutions as evidenced by this website.

Posted on 25/01/2017 19:49

A very good compromise solution.

replied on 25/01/2017 20:06

Posted on 25/01/2017 19:47 by IanH

Let's be honest here........the only reason many people don't want deposits is that they aren't sure that they will actually go.

Posted on 25/01/2017 20:06

Your assumption Ian. I have no idea how honest an assumption but I personally doubt that to be the reason that many do not wish for deposits. 

There I several reasons why I do not wish to see deposits which would have to be significantly high to be worthwhile. 

I think that they are unnecessary as I think that levels of intentional abuse are low.

I see it as a needless faff and would not wish for a website run by CC to hold my details as I do not think that their site is at all likely to be well maintained and secure given the levels of IT competence that seem apparent.

If necessary I would pay deposits. I can afford to have my money tied up but some may be less able. Particularly so at certain times of year.

moulesy replied on 25/01/2017 20:08

Posted on 25/01/2017 20:08

Personally, I've nothing against deposits. In fact I've already paid two deposits, one for a CL and one for a commercial site. The CC has for many years had a different non deposit booking system which it reckons works to the benefit of the club as a whole and members individually. I can see no reason to dispute this, any more than I would dispute paying a deposit for a site which wanted one. Since "honeypot" sites have, presumably, a higher occupation rate than others I feel the argument for having deposits for them is rather weak.

I have agreed several times in the past with CY's suggestion and still see it as a fair way to maintain the non-deposit system while allowing penalties for the very small number who abuse it. 

replied on 25/01/2017 20:11

Posted on 25/01/2017 20:11

Surprised that anybody would wish the CC to hold their C ard details on their website Moulsey.

moulesy replied on 25/01/2017 20:27

Posted on 25/01/2017 20:11 by

Surprised that anybody would wish the CC to hold their C ard details on their website Moulsey.

Posted on 25/01/2017 20:27

Just agreeing that it's a better alternative than going for deposits, Alan.I think there'd have to be a considerable beefing up of security before going own that route. At the end of the day I'm happy to accept that the club have far more evidence and business acumen than any of us on which to base their decision, so I'm happy with the status quo. 

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