Is there a real 4 berth family caravan?

Have you considered a different approach and looked at pup tents. Our two boys, now 30+, went into small tents around the age of 10 years old. They loved there own space, long lie-ins, the caravan stayed tidy and it gave us some peace and quiet. When they hit 16/17 years old they no longer wanted to come away for long holidays, so the need for that potentially larger caravan no longer existed.

I know C&MC sites do not "allow" these small tents, but independents, CL's and Continental sites do so it could be an option for you.

A year ago we looked inside the Weinsberg vans as they are made by Knaus and looked a nice idea. Specifications are good and prices very attractive. The units we saw on display at Davan caravans in Somerset all had bits falling off though, so it may be worth looking into the quality of finish.

Colin

Good suggestion above re pup tent....our daughter/SIL have just bought a Weinsberg van with two rear bunks (far larger than required for their two small kids, so would last...has decent kitchen, shower room and a lounge that converts to a double....they are a family that loves it!

yes, it's a small caravan but uses the space so we'll....add in a large front locker, huge inside kitchen and lounge lockers and it works really well...and light and easy to tow.

might get one myself😉

Pup tents are allowed on your pitch on CAMC sites so your idea might be a viable option.

Have you ruled out a van with fixed single beds, rather than bunks?

Our family are looking at layouts that would suit both them and us and have concluded that the only suitable one is (from rear to front) .....

rear shower room........fixed singles.......kitchen.......lounge that converts to a double bed.

When they use it the children would use the single beds and the parents would make up the double, when we use it we would then avoid having to make up a bed as the fixed singles are there.

Not many fixed singles around now, we are looking at new vans, Bailey and Adria have them, but the Adria ones are very long.

Easier to find what you need in a slightly older van I think.

We presently have a TA with fixed double, so already have a suitable tow  car.

I think that for a proper four birth caravan you could have a look at a six berth caravan, especially one like our present Sprite major 6 TD or the same layout in its Challenger form. It does have two long fixed bunks at the back but also a good size rear dinette (where the extra two births come from). For four we've found it perfect, for six a bit of a squeeze, for two very spacious, the rear lounge part is excellent and 'kids' still use it occasionally.

We've had ours 10 years now and really a fixed double layout is what would suit us best now but while it's bone dry and working we're keeping it 

Arriving on site and then having to erect a pup tent in the rain isn't ideal.

Growing up in my  teens I spent many nights in a pup tent (or awning) but thankfully those days are well and truly over. Tenting can be fun but only the truly hardy enjoy it in wet ( or cold) weather.

The 2 single bed version is a good suggestion. We had a Lunar caravan which had 2 single beds at the rear a split bathroom in the middle and then kitchen, front of van was the lounge easily big enough for 4 people and at night converted into a good sized double bed. You could even remove the centre cabinet to make it a king size. 

When our gKids came away with us they had the 2 singles at the rear of the van. You could close off this area with a concertina door. The bathroom being in the middle was then still accessible to us at the front. There was another solid door that could be used to close off the rest of the van by opening the toilet door which then went across the middle of the van. It was a great design as when just the 2 of us used it this door made the rear bedroom into an en suite.

Fabulous van I think one of our favourites. It was fairly long just a bit shorter than a twin axle but for a family it was good.

When our children were young we had a 3 come 4 berth van, once they got to big for that they were of an age to go in a pup tent which they loved. 

Phoenix GT75 642 ?

https://www.baileyofbristol.co.uk/touring-caravans/phoenix-gt75/phoenix-gt75-642/

That is one of the vans our lot have been looking at, but for us the fridge is rather small, never mind for a family of 4.

Presumably to keep the cost and weight down, but it is not very practical.