Latest Caravans and Euro 6 Car Engines

kingfisher999 replied on 12/05/2021 16:50

Posted on 12/05/2021 16:50

I recently stumbled across a post (dated 2017) that described problems caravaners were encountering following the introduction of the (then) newly introduced Euro 6 engines. Because of the regeneration system of the engines (to improve fuel efficiency), the car battery is kept partially discharged so the battery can take extra charge during breaking. This results in the battery voltage being "low" during cruising and therefore discharging the caravan battery to the same state as the car battery. I understand this has resulted in drivers arriving at their destination (particularly after long motorway runs) with a "flat" caravan battery that will not drive the motor mover and a defrosted fridge (which doesn't like whats going on). Additionally, there have been reports the ATC does not like this situation either and shows error codes.

 

Can anyone shed any light on this? Have the manufacturers of more recent caravans introduced design changes to their electrics to over come these problems (particularly Buccaneer)?

 

JVB66 replied on 12/05/2021 17:28

Posted on 12/05/2021 17:28

Do not know about battery discharging ,but there was/is a problem with smart alternators fitted to some cars, that would "shut down" when vehicle battery was charged, so not supplying power to c/van fridge ,this is normally rectified ,with some sort of Gizmo that up to speed tow bar fitters install to "fool? the alternator into giving power

SeasideBill replied on 12/05/2021 17:42

Posted on 12/05/2021 17:42

You’re correct, regenerative braking is only effective if the starter battery has some spare storage capacity to absorb the charge created by the alternator during deceleration.  The issue, and solution to charging auxiliary batteries is well explained HERE

kingfisher999 replied on 12/05/2021 19:49

Posted on 12/05/2021 19:49

 I have read the article and it ties in with what I have read before (hence the post). My concern is - if there is an "incompatibility" between the car and the caravan which has been introduced by all car manufactures to comply with regulations, then I would have thought it would have been incumbent on caravan manufacturers to introduce a solution (eg battery to battery charger) or other solution to this problem so caravaners don't have to go and knife and fork a fix with variable success when they know what is needed.

KeefySher replied on 12/05/2021 19:54

Posted on 12/05/2021 19:54

Been towing caravan with Euro 6 engined cars since 2015 without issue.

The first Euro 6 was a 2012 model year car.

 

There are car manufacturers and tow bar fitters that don't fit the requisite wiring to power the caravan fridge, unless you specify it, even factory built,  BMW in particular.

SeasideBill replied on 12/05/2021 22:07

Posted on 12/05/2021 22:07

Euro 6 is a bit of a red herring. The question is whether the vehicle is fitted with a smart alternator. In the case of vehicles fitted with start/stop systems, then almost certainly yes, otherwise you’ll need to check, particularly for earlier models.

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SeasideBill replied on 13/05/2021 08:50

Posted on 13/05/2021 08:50

From what I remember of discussions at the time, it was more of a theoretical problem than something real. I’m sure the technology has moved on since then anyway.

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