NHS test/trace on site

Carian replied on 16/10/2020 20:04

Posted on 16/10/2020 20:04

Well, I've just had the email saying we have to register with the nhs test and trace app when arriving on site. As a couple we own standard old school phones which don't have the app facility so are we now discriminated against and can't enjoy our hobby?

Whittakerr replied on 17/10/2020 08:59

Posted on 17/10/2020 07:34 by Whittakerr

The email also states for England  "Members and guests who reside in a Local Alert level of Very High should not travel to any of the Club’s other campsites". This is stronger than the current law which advises against travel from a Very High alert level, but does not prohibit it.

Posted on 17/10/2020 08:59

I've just noticed that this is discussed on another thread so please ignore my post above. 

JVB66 replied on 17/10/2020 09:25

Posted on 16/10/2020 20:50 by brue

JVB. It's not "throw away, keep spending" in relation to communication technology, far from it, would you rather still be carrying around a "brick" cell phone in a suitcase? The Android 6 marshmallow version needed for the app, for instance, is already five years old.

As TW says you can check in via a paper format at reception if needed. some venues just need a name and a contact number.

Posted on 17/10/2020 09:25

MY and OHs mobile phones are probably smaller and lighter than the ones that are sold now surprised,and do not need charging as often it seems with what is needed nowwink 

replied on 17/10/2020 09:30

Posted on 16/10/2020 20:04 by Carian

Well, I've just had the email saying we have to register with the nhs test and trace app when arriving on site. As a couple we own standard old school phones which don't have the app facility so are we now discriminated against and can't enjoy our hobby?

Posted on 17/10/2020 09:30

As you have no doubt realised by now registering for track and trace is merely a request.

replied on 17/10/2020 09:33

Posted on 17/10/2020 06:56 by peedee

I checked into a CL recently using the QRC code. Isn't it the case that all venues are legally obliged to display a code for visitors to check in if they can?

peedee

Posted on 17/10/2020 09:33

Like many things regarding Covid regulations and advice I have no idea PD

JVB66 replied on 17/10/2020 09:38

Posted on 16/10/2020 21:58 by DavidKlyne

I am not sure why you say the App is from Serco who had nothing to do with it. The App is a cooperation between Google and Apple. The NHS tested this app against their original one and found the Google/Apple was the better option. You may be getting confused with the fact that Serco run Track and Trace for the Government but the app is separate. 

Posted on 17/10/2020 09:38

Serco also have their "fingers" in many other Govenment and commercial organisations (Be very afraid)surprised

brue replied on 17/10/2020 09:53

Posted on 17/10/2020 09:25 by JVB66

MY and OHs mobile phones are probably smaller and lighter than the ones that are sold now surprised,and do not need charging as often it seems with what is needed nowwink 

Posted on 17/10/2020 09:53

I was pointing out how things have developed since the original cell phones, size doesn't matter but upgraded communications do. Over the years I've resisted new developments until prices come down (I'm the daughter of a telecommunications research engineer! wink) Nowadays cheap reliable up to date phones are available, they used to takes ages to appear on the market. The technology on Android is now five years old so anyone without it is using an out of date system, maybe in a crisis like this it might be sensible to update rather than resist? The club is asking people, if they have the facility to use it, slower paper checks involving more face to face contact are available.

There are a lot venues which now legally have to provide the QR code, a £10,000 fine awaits those who don't.

Keep safe everyone.

DSB replied on 17/10/2020 10:12

Posted on 17/10/2020 10:12

Well, we went to Buxton for a few days earlier on in the week, and I just didn't give the QR code a thought..... and as no-one reminded me it just didn't get done.  

David

SteveL replied on 17/10/2020 10:21

Posted on 17/10/2020 10:21

Will the App sound an alarm if you are from a tier 3 area and scan a bar code in a tier 1 or 2 area? If not it can't really be used to check if folk come from a very high area and other address checks would be required. Even post codes wouldn't be that reliable, as they cross county boundaries that are generally used for setting the tiers. Lots of north Nottinghamshire have Doncaster (South Yorkshire) post codes and parts of East Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire ones. Hopefully it will only be a very small minority that try to avoid the restrictions.

GTP replied on 17/10/2020 11:18

Posted on 16/10/2020 20:50 by brue

JVB. It's not "throw away, keep spending" in relation to communication technology, far from it, would you rather still be carrying around a "brick" cell phone in a suitcase? The Android 6 marshmallow version needed for the app, for instance, is already five years old.

As TW says you can check in via a paper format at reception if needed. some venues just need a name and a contact number.

Posted on 17/10/2020 11:18

Ditto....I had the 'brick' cell phone, complete with leather suitcase and shoulder strap...... about the same time as I purchased one of the first 'home' computers..built by Sharp as an all in one...no mouse then !!. I wouldn't want to go back to either.

As you mention, the technology in smart phones required to use the NHS app is well over 5yrs old. Our iPhone 7 Plus model (personally rated as one of the better iPhones) quite happily scanned the QR code at Chester Fair Oaks recently. Its no big deal and is better than giving out personal data every time you go into a restaurant etc...

 

peedee replied on 17/10/2020 11:34

Posted on 17/10/2020 11:34

There are a lot venues which now legally have to provide the QR code, a £10,000 fine awaits those who don't.

Thank you Brue, I thought I had read it somewhere.

Martin Lewis, in his program this week in answer to the question on unsuitable phones, pointed out that modern ones could be obtained for as little as £15p.m. and in his view it was worth upgrading if you were spending £10 per month or more.

peedee

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