Sustainability Matters

RowenaBCAMC replied on 05/10/2023 14:20

Posted on 05/10/2023 14:20

The Club is working hard to ensure it operates as sustainably as possible and is developing plans and targets for the future focusing on the three key themes of People, Places and Planet as per our Green Tourism accreditation.

The Sustainability team will be at the NEC Motorhome and Caravan Show on the morning of Wednesday 18 October and will be sharing what the Club has been doing to be more Sustainable. It would be great to hear if there are any particular questions or topics you would like covered to ensure we can make the update as relevant and interesting as possible.

We would love for you to share your questions and ideas in the comments below to help us shape our plans and future communication to you, the members. Let's start a conversation about sustainability and how we can work together towards a greener future for all. We look forward to hearing from you!

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/11/2023 11:37

Posted on 19/10/2023 11:14 by viatorem

How about being able to choose to delete electric hook up for those who are self sufficient for power? with a discount of coursewink

Electric mowers ? also a quieter option. Heat pumps, solar etc presumably all being explored?

I guess there is a limit cost wise where business sustainability meets environmental sustainability although the greener options are becoming relatively cheaper as take-up accelerates.

 

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:37

A non electric saver trial is underway at 3 sites over the winter months allowing members at Clumber Park, Burrs Country Park and Chatsworth to book any pitch and receive a discount for not hooking up. If this is successful it may be rolled out more widely in 2024.

www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/smart-metering-trial/


The Club is moving towards use of electric equipment on site, be it electric buggies, mowers and leaf blowers, this will be a slow process and the move will be made as equipment fails.

The Club is also using air source heat pumps to provide space heating and heat recovery on toilet block ventilation systems. We are also busy investigating and assessing options for pre-heating hot water. 

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/11/2023 11:39

Posted on 19/10/2023 12:35 by vbfg

I wonder if the cost is going down very much in view of the price of energy costs going up?

The price of solar panels halved around 12 years ago, when the FIT payments went down which just goes to show how much electrical companies must have been making on fitting them!  In view of energy costs going up in the last couple of years, perhaps they have gone back up again as many companies seek to make as much profit as they can, when they can, as we found during Covid with the PPE scandal.

Personally, I am all for sites trying to minimise their costs with solar panels and in vew of the number of CMHC sites, perhaps they could negotiate a good deal if they used the same company.

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:39

This is a very good point and something the Club is looking into. We have solar panel providers but we need to find a cost effective solution for the battery needed to store the energy generated. 

You can stay up to date with solar and other renewables on our sustainability hub and sustainability FAQs

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/11/2023 11:42

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:42

Thank you for your points. You are very true and this is why roll out of solar is slow as we understand how best to optimise each site. Due to visitors using the energy in the morning and evening when light is limited we need to understand the usage better to ensure we install the correct size and can use all the energy generated. 

Wind turbines were trialled at one of our sites however, we found the energy generated was not cost effective vs the cost of the infrastructure. 

If you have any other questions please remember to check our FAQs and sustainability hub.

 

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/11/2023 11:43

Posted on 19/10/2023 19:09 by the browser

Think the club has missed a’ P’ out PROFIT

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:43

The Caravan and Motorhome Club is run with our members in mind and any surplus is invested back into the Club. Over the past 5 years the annual investment in the site network has been £12.8 million and we ensure this investment has our members at the forefront of any decision making. 


If you have any other questions please remember to check our FAQs and sustainability hub.

KjellNN replied on 09/11/2023 11:50

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:42 by RowenaBCAMC

Thank you for your points. You are very true and this is why roll out of solar is slow as we understand how best to optimise each site. Due to visitors using the energy in the morning and evening when light is limited we need to understand the usage better to ensure we install the correct size and can use all the energy generated. 

Wind turbines were trialled at one of our sites however, we found the energy generated was not cost effective vs the cost of the infrastructure. 

If you have any other questions please remember to check our FAQs and sustainability hub.

 

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:50

Any excess that cannot be stored in batteries can be exported to the grid and a payment received.

DavidKlyne replied on 09/11/2023 11:56

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:56

Hi Rowena

Thanks for getting back to us on this subject with some pretty comprehensive answers. I was particularly struct by what you said about the consumption of electricity going down when a site has a metering set up. I assume the Club have been doing some exit surveys on members who have stayed at these sites to see how habits have changed? We know from the AGM questions that the energy bill for sites was a massive figure so if energy savings via metering result in lower use then hopefully this will in future be more accurately reflected in site fees? 

David

mickysf replied on 09/11/2023 13:43

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:50 by KjellNN

Any excess that cannot be stored in batteries can be exported to the grid and a payment received.

Posted on 09/11/2023 13:43

Indeed, the more individuals and companies, including the C&MC do this the less our country becomes fossil fuel and foreign energy supplier dependant. Must be a win win for members, our country and the environment. Certainly would enhance the profile of the club’s green credential.

peedee replied on 09/11/2023 14:08

Posted on 09/11/2023 14:08

A non electric saver trial is underway at 3 sites over the winter months allowing members at Clumber Park, Burrs Country Park and Chatsworth to book any pitch and receive a discount for not hooking up. If this is successful it may be rolled out more widely in 2024.

How come the Club has only now decided they can do this and what is the discount?

peedee

Takethedogalong replied on 09/11/2023 14:18

Posted on 09/11/2023 14:18

I think the Club are trialling a few ideas PD, all those three sites are luckily not far from us, so depending on the discount, it could be a goer for us.

Have you had the first night free email yet? This does sound good, only for a couple of months, but brings the nightly average down well for a short stay for us. I have started a thread about this.

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/11/2023 15:49

Posted on 09/11/2023 11:56 by DavidKlyne

Hi Rowena

Thanks for getting back to us on this subject with some pretty comprehensive answers. I was particularly struct by what you said about the consumption of electricity going down when a site has a metering set up. I assume the Club have been doing some exit surveys on members who have stayed at these sites to see how habits have changed? We know from the AGM questions that the energy bill for sites was a massive figure so if energy savings via metering result in lower use then hopefully this will in future be more accurately reflected in site fees? 

David

Posted on 09/11/2023 15:49

Hi David, 

We have been completing exit surveys and also been analysing the amount of electricity used when compared to those who are not on a metered connection. Those taking part in the trial are saving money due to the decreased pitch fees and the amount of electricity used. We are excited to see whether this continues in the colder months. 

We will update on the trial once we have analysed all of the findings in 2024. 

Thanks again David. 

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