Swift Microwave BMSW20

Alan191 replied on 04/04/2019 09:04

Posted on 04/04/2019 09:04

In February the microwave in our 2015 Swift Challenger Sport failed.

We wanted to replace the unit with the same model so that we could use the existing brackets that hold the microwave securely in place.

I tried a couple of dealers and was offered a replacement Cata BMSW20 at £272.78 including VAT and delivery. I thought this was an unreasonably high price and looked around to see if the model was available elsewhere.

Unfortunately I couldn't find anyone else selling a Cata BMSW20 at any price, not even Cata themselves, but after some Internet searching, found what appeared to be an identical model sold as a Cookology BIM20LWG by The Wright Buy for £107.00, including VAT and delivery. Interestingly, this also included a grill function. This was available at https://www.thewrightbuy.co.uk/cookology-bim20lwg-stainless-steel-20l-800w-60-x-38cm-built-in-microwave-grill.

The same machine appeared to be available at https://www.myappliances.co.uk/prod/integrated-microwaves/myappliances-art28604-microwave-800w-20l-b-in-s-steel.htm for £107.99 plus delivery.

Both of these models are sold as integrated kitchen models.

We decided to opt for the Cookology BIM20LWG from The Wright Buy as they had good customer service reviews on Trust pilot, and the unit arrived on schedule.

After removing the stainless steel surround and swapping the manufacturer screw-in legs for from the original Swift model, we ended up with an identically sized unit that went straight back into the securing brackets fitted by Swift. See the photo for pictures of the two units.

We found that the manuals for the “Cata” BMSW20 and the Cookology BIM20LWG are substantially the same and both show the unit as a built-in 600mm unit complete with surround.

If your BMSW20 microwave in a Swift caravan fails and you want something that fits straight back into the fittings that secure the unit and costs rather less than the Swift alternative, the Cookology BIM20LWG might be worth a look.

Apart from the additional grill feature, you'll be left with a stainless steel surround that might make an attractive picture frame!!

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ChrisSandraM replied on 28/05/2021 18:29

Posted on 28/05/2021 18:29

Hello.

We have a 2013 Swift Kontiki 669 and the microwave needs replacing as the magnatron is buzzing away. 

We seem to have the same model as you, a BMSW20. I have read your post and checked out the model that was a direct replacement for yours but the dimensions of the Cookology oven seem much bigger.

Our current microwave, with the surround, is 540mm wide, 350mm high and 330mm deep. The dimensions of just the oven, without the surround are 470mn wide, 280mm high and 330 deep. Does the Cookology oven match these dimensions? It would be great if it did.

Many thanks for your help.

Sandra

mandyt replied on 06/07/2021 19:36

Posted on 28/05/2021 18:29 by ChrisSandraM

Hello.

We have a 2013 Swift Kontiki 669 and the microwave needs replacing as the magnatron is buzzing away. 

We seem to have the same model as you, a BMSW20. I have read your post and checked out the model that was a direct replacement for yours but the dimensions of the Cookology oven seem much bigger.

Our current microwave, with the surround, is 540mm wide, 350mm high and 330mm deep. The dimensions of just the oven, without the surround are 470mn wide, 280mm high and 330 deep. Does the Cookology oven match these dimensions? It would be great if it did.

Many thanks for your help.

Sandra

Posted on 06/07/2021 19:36

We’ve just received the Cookology IM20LSS from The Wright Buy Ltd for £129.99. The stainless steel surround is too big and is for a domestic cupboard but we used our existing trim and took the feet off the old microwave and put them on the new one as the ones on the new model were too big. The steel brackets holding the feet needed moving up in the housing to centralise the microwave within the trim. 
it’s a perfect match. I ordered yesterday morning and it arrived this afternoon and even though it’s taken a while it is now fitted. 

richardandros replied on 07/07/2021 06:02

Posted on 07/07/2021 06:02

A very interesting post - thank you - and I say that because the Cookology one seems to be identical to the microwave fitted in our Knaus.  The only difference being that our buttons are labelled in German rather than English which results in us having to reach for the manual if we ever want to do anything other than simply heat something!

ScreenName4FEEB7DBAE replied on 28/10/2021 09:44

Posted on 28/10/2021 09:44

Brilliant post - thank you.

As a follow-up - if you are looking to replace the original Cata microwave with just a microwave (and not the combi microwave and grill as above) then the Cookology IM20LSS is perfect for this.

it looks near identical - and is the exact same size.  It comes supplied with it's own fasica, base and feet fitted.  To replace the Cata:

- unscrew the fascia and base from the Cookology microwave
- swap the feet of the Cookology microwave with those from the Cata  (the bolt holes for the feet are the exact same size and locations on both ovens)

... and that's it.  The Cookology then fits exactly where the Cata did - and you simply replace the caravan fitting and fasica around it.

But I'd never have found the Cookology microwave without the original post here - so thanks.

Robert 

   

maddog replied on 14/04/2022 10:04

Posted on 14/04/2022 10:04

I too have a swift alpine caravan and the microwave went faulty on me. On contacting my swift dealer I was quoted £350 for supply only . My wife done some searching and we found a microwave that is a direct replacement , the existing model is an integrated microwave because it’s fitted in a cupboard , it was suggested to me to fit a basic model but this would involve carpentry work which was something I did not want to do.

The microwave we bought was a Russell Hobbs , the only work we had to was take of the flat plat on the bottom of the microwave covering the rubber feet and change the rubber feet for the ones on the old one.

link to the replacement

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IJZZF12/ref=ppx_od_tab_ap_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

hope this helps

Casbedac replied on 29/04/2022 13:17

Posted on 28/10/2021 09:44 by ScreenName4FEEB7DBAE

Brilliant post - thank you.

As a follow-up - if you are looking to replace the original Cata microwave with just a microwave (and not the combi microwave and grill as above) then the Cookology IM20LSS is perfect for this.

it looks near identical - and is the exact same size.  It comes supplied with it's own fasica, base and feet fitted.  To replace the Cata:

- unscrew the fascia and base from the Cookology microwave
- swap the feet of the Cookology microwave with those from the Cata  (the bolt holes for the feet are the exact same size and locations on both ovens)

... and that's it.  The Cookology then fits exactly where the Cata did - and you simply replace the caravan fitting and fasica around it.

But I'd never have found the Cookology microwave without the original post here - so thanks.

Robert 

   

Posted on 29/04/2022 13:17

Many thanks for all the comments & suggestions. Same problem, i.e. trying to find a replacement for the BMSW20. Followed the thread here & decided to purchase the Cookology IM20LSS. On the new microwave simply removed the stainless steel front surround (4 screws), removed the plastic feet on the new one, replaced these with those on the old microwave, (the new feet are too long), removed the casing around the base of the new one and slotted the new microwave in place in the caravan (Swift 570). No problem at all. It is an identical product in terms of size, power & looks as the broken one. I have the frame & bottom case if anybody wants it, no use to me!

Purchased the IM20LSS from Wright Buy. Good service from here, delivered in a day.

https://www.thewrightbuy.co.uk/cookology/cookology-im20lss-20l-800w-60cm-integrated-built-in-microwave-in-stainless-steel

Thanks for the support.

calandjt replied on 04/05/2022 20:32

Posted on 04/05/2022 20:32

May 2022

We have just fitted the Cookology IM20 LSS in our 2013 Challenger. Purchased from thewrightbuy.co.uk. at £129.99. (Much less than Swift at £350. )
We are so grateful for post’s and advice here helping us find a replacement which fits exactly. 
As already said, just swap the feet and stainless steel trim from your old one on to your new one, and you then have an exact replacement. 

Colin Dav replied on 06/06/2022 03:08

Posted on 06/06/2022 03:08

When I purchased my 2010 Rambler 19/4SE (Elddis Avante 540) IN 2018  from my brothers widow, the microwave did not work (no display or power visible. 

After carrying out the normal checks for power to the plug was ok, I took the unit out and removed the cover. It seems that the vibration over the years has caused a wire to the chassis to break off, Once re-soldered, the microwave has worked perfectly ever since. 

It is wither checking out things like this before throwing away non working appliences. 

Peterh44 replied on 04/07/2022 14:24

Posted on 04/07/2022 14:24

 

'twice bitten' :(  nevber again!

Having replaced the original Swift Cata Microwave just over two years ago with the cookology identical microwave we are bitterly disappointed that this has also now failed.  Considering we have had the covid non-use period in-between we’ve hardly used it, we estimate 6-8 times. This is very poor quality and we wouldn’t recommend anyone replacing theirs with similar.

Has anyone recently found an alternative you could supply details for please?

I’m going to see what’s available as a built in and thanks to those  who have already suggested a couple of alternatives.

belstane replied on 28/07/2022 13:05

Posted on 28/07/2022 13:05

Just noted what Peterh44 has commented. Please see below for some info on why I think they keep failing.

I've just replaced our Swift Challenger microwave with the identical machine from Cookology. You have to dig on their website, but it is possible to buy the one without the grill. it was £139.99. its product number is IM20LSS, as opposed to the one with the grill, IMS20LSG.

As in the original post on this conversation, this comes with a stainless steel surround, which is easily removed but beware, have the correct size of screwdriver as the screws holding the surround are very tight and they can easily tear, leaving you with an un-unscrewable screw! You also have to swop out the tall feet for short ones on the old microwave.

The above microwave (IM20LSS) does not come with the grill and I chose it for the following reason: on removing the busted microwave from its slot in the caravan, it really does seem as if there is not enough room to ventilate and cool the machine. If a grill was added to the felony, then I think this would add to the risk of overheating. Indeed, when I removed the microwave, there were signs of soot on the top of it, possibly from a hot spot inside, but that is certainly a bit too spooky for comfort.

There are so many failures with these microwaves that, considering the lack of air-space around them, I am fairly convinced that it must be due to overheating with, probably, the power supply failing altogether - I say this because in my dud microwave, there is no life whatsoever, no lights on, nothing - no power to anything. The fact that the microwaves are retained above with a sheet of plywood, albeit with holes in it, and feet that are substantially shorter than the ones delivered with the new microwave would seem to be more-than halving the air space around the microwave,

So, I do believe that Peterh44 above is right and that we all need to find an alternative because sooner or later we'll get fed up replacing these microwaves and sooner or later, Cookology will cease production of this model and we'll all be left with a new cupboard above the sink and a standard microwave out in the awning - not necessarily a bad alternative.

 

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