What next for the hobby?

OldDave replied on 20/09/2018 16:16

Posted on 20/09/2018 16:16

Having been a caravanner and motorhomer for nearly the last 50 years I can certainly claim to have seen many changes. The ‘good old days’ where a Club site, usually a field, had if you were lucky a water tap and a drain for disposal, and nowt else has morphed in to what some may feel are sorts of car parks where pitches are in lines with sometimes what seems to be not a lot of room between. But then there is  the good side of heated washrooms and hot showers etc, not an Elsan, and if you need to ask what an Elsan is, you are too young. Of course the costs have also changed drastically and a night’s fees can be in the order of £30 these days. Some will argue that that is still a cheap holiday but others will point out that organisations such as ACSI offering rates of 17 – 22 euros per night in Europe and often including facilities such as swimming pools, restaurants etc may make the UK Club sites a tad expensive. It is your choice of course.

 

However, the main point I am trying to put across is that over the years there has been a drastic increase in caravanners and motorhomers and I do wonder if we are getting to a saturation level. I read that sales of motorhomes are rising rapidly each year and I see adverts from dealers offering stocks of 100 vehicles at a time and i do wonder where they are all going to go, certainly within the UK. Yes, more sites are opening up but are they keeping up with demand. We see with the Club how some sites are booked solid for weekends a year ahead which makes the old mantra of ‘going where you want, when you wish’ a bit cliche’d. Yes, there is the alternative of the CL/CS sites system but even there booking ahead is often the norm. France has provided a system of aires which allow motorhomes a cheaper alternative to a regular site, which allows in turn caravanners more options, unless the transfer of customers leads to the closure of the original site, which has happened on occasions. In addition many sites now install ‘bungalows’ which reduces the number of touring pitches available. It seems a bit like a snakes and ladders scenario. Many people buy motorhomes with the so called attraction of ‘wild camping’ but I regret that even that is a diminishing option due to over camping and often inconsiderate behaviour. The Scottish islands are swamped these days and locals are demanding that restrictions be put in place so that they can just go about their normal day to day business. Off season used to be a good way to go where you wanted at almost any time but here again the popular places are often fully booked. We regularly go to Spain but the site we frequently use is an all year site for almost 400 outfits. But trying to get a pitch between October and March can be very difficult indeed as it is so popular with the ‘snowbird’ generation. There has been standing joke on the site that to get a pitch you needed to wait until someone passed away and jump in quick for their pitch. Booking a year ahead is the norm these days. That suggests to me that camping per se is morphing into a package holiday system where you book well in advance a certain place to get what you want. That is a long way away from where it all started. Even this week I looked at options for ferries to Spain to see that certain cabins are already fully booked for next June etc. A hammock on deck methinks.

 

I am not trying to be morbid about it as I enjoy camping but wonder what is next. I could offer some ‘black humour’ by stating that once the baby boomer generation have passed on, there should be plenty of places available as evidently we are cluttering up everything. But then again the Millenials complain they cannot buy homes or anything else so I suspect motorhomes may be well down the list. Never mind, sit back with a G&T or whatever, enjoy the area where you are staying and just hope it doesn't rain, and by the way, let me know when you plan on moving so I can get your pitch!!!!!!

Wherenext replied on 20/09/2018 16:41

Posted on 20/09/2018 16:41

Sometimes this pastime of ours can still surprise you.

We couldn't make any arrangements for an autumn holiday as we were waiting on a date for a funeral that we'll be attending. We thought we might squeeze a week at the beginning of September in so we rang Buxton site by chance the day before we wanted to go and lo and behold there was a pitch available. So whilst away we found the funeral date was at the end of September. Warden at Buxton rang Cheddar and lo and behold we were able to get a pitch. We rang a CL and lo and behold they had 1 pitch left for when we left Cheddar. 

So we were able to have an autumn break just like the "good old days".

Wildwood replied on 20/09/2018 16:42

Posted on 20/09/2018 16:42

The biggest problems for me are the ever lower weights of tow cars and the attack on dies0el engines.

The lower weight of tow cars must be hitting caravan sales and with diesel under fire the most popular tow cars are less attractive. This may account to some extent for the slowing of caravan sales and the increase in motorhome sales.

Having said that almost all motorhomes are diesels so things may catch up with them but it is noticeable that only Coachman do not build them now so the manufacturers must see them as a good bet for the future.

Electric power also may be a threat. Current cars do not have the range if they can tow to be of any use nor are they available as motorhomes. Both may be problems that will be solved but even then electric cars look as though they will take far longer to charge than it takes to pump a few gallons of petrol which may make longer trips even longer.

I have also been unable to find any charging point that will accommodate more than a single car which would be a problem for those towing and all but the smallest motorhomes.

I have seen nothing relevant from either club or anyone else on what they see as the future and so far all we can do is guess where we are going.

 

DavidKlyne replied on 20/09/2018 17:12

Posted on 20/09/2018 17:12

If we, as members of the older generation, do we  need to worry too much about what might happen in ten to twenty years time? Personally I am more concerned about our own health and how long we can continue to enjoy our hobby. Should be buy a new motorhome or keep the current one until we both fall to bits? The future of camping will change of course it will but I can't predict how that change will happen. I am not sure either of my sons will follow their dad in camping as we know it. They either prefer holidays abroad or hire a  static or stay in a hotel, neither of them are time rich. 

David

Hedgehurst replied on 20/09/2018 18:01

Posted on 20/09/2018 18:01

I agree, David, there's not a lot we can do about what others decide to do with vans, anyway, in reality. I hope that at 65 I've still got another 20 years or so caravanning in me :-)


But while worrying about what will happen in vanning isn't going to get us anywhere, learning to encourage and make use of cleaner technologies when they become appropriate, does seem important to me, so we leave a slightly less smashed world for those generations following, however they take their holidays. That's something we can affect, even if only in individually small ways.

eurortraveller replied on 20/09/2018 18:59

Posted on 20/09/2018 18:59

Of course this hobby wil die.

Already the 40 year olds in my family regard Grandpa's  hobby as quaint as train spotting and stamp collecting.  They have far more money to spend than I ever had,  far more interesting things to do, and far more exciting things to do than trundle around caravan sites.

 

 

brue replied on 20/09/2018 20:21

Posted on 20/09/2018 20:21

Interesting post OldDave, I remember hearing about family friends going off with their very heavy hand built van and finding a farmer who'd let them camp on a field. Certain farmers would provide stop offs for longer journeys. To me it's a part of history, they did things differently then and so will the next generation. Best to enjoy what you've got while you can!? smile

redface replied on 20/09/2018 22:57

Posted on 20/09/2018 22:57

Enjoy what you have got and to hell with everyone else who will have a different set of personal values.

Sure, changes will occur, year on year, go with the flow - relax.

Oneputt replied on 21/09/2018 06:51

Posted on 21/09/2018 06:51

At my age the 2040 date isn’t an issue, if needed I will buy another diesel 4x4 after all there are plenty of large second hand suv’s on the market.

Never had problem with overbooking, just look for somewhere else in the locality.

You mention the Acsi price but remember for working families they are paying anywhere from €30 to €50+/night, plus ferry costs, fuel, red pennant etc., so when you add that up it’s probably more/in line with club site costs.  

Luckily I’m retire so when I go over there this weekend my costs are much reduced.  I will be paying €15/night incl and elec allowance but will have to pay for WiFi which will be more than the clubs annual £25/year cost. I could if I so wished stay in the UK at a far cheaper rate and wouldn’t run up the mileage I will over there.

You pays your money etc., etc..

 

mickysf replied on 21/09/2018 10:27

Posted on 21/09/2018 10:27

Just out of interest, to whom I'm not sure mind! I've always referred to those CWPs as Elsan points. Dad did, so did I. Never knew why until a few years ago, it is a company brand name! Bit like hoovers being a generic term for vacuum cleaners. 

http://www.elsan.co.uk

I wonder if this company can move with the times?wink

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