Driving down narrow lanes

ScreenNameF6C0C3E5B0 replied on 23/09/2020 01:03

Posted on 23/09/2020 01:03

We made our first trip away in our Pennine Fiesta folding camper at the weekend.  Heading out of the site, we had a little way to go down some narrow lanes.  Most people were very accommodating and reversed back a considerable distance to let us pass.  One guy, however, just sat there, gesticulating wildly.  I had just passed a passing place, but am still not confident at reversing.  I tried to go back, but by then, someone was behind me, and though I didn't do too badly, I ended up red-faced and with a hot clutch.  As he passed, he helpfully leant out of the window and said "I think you need some more practice there, luv".  As I headed up the road, I realised that he had a passing place about 15m back.  My question is (apart from seeking reassurance that it can happen to anyone), what should I have done there?  I can't help but feel that, as a towing vehicle and with a car behind me, it wasn't my responsibility to move, evem though I was closer to a passing place than the oncoming vehicle.  And if so, how do you deal with someone who refuses to yield?

Tinwheeler replied on 23/09/2020 12:05

Posted on 23/09/2020 09:40 by JVB66

You need to come to our narrow lanes,to see how  the "locals" expect right of way undecided

Posted on 23/09/2020 12:05

Our locals are clearly more polite than yours 🙂

SteveL replied on 23/09/2020 12:08

Posted on 23/09/2020 12:08

Some trailers, small ones, can be absolute so and so’s to reverse, jackknife instantly. Easier to unhitch and push if not too heavy.

We had one of those.☹️ Many, many years ago when the kids were primary age, we were navigating some lanes in the hill behind Genoa, looking for a campsite. We went the wrong way up a particularly narrow steep lane and got totally stuck with cars both ahead and behind. Several very nice locals help me unhitch the heavy trailer and stoped it rolling down the hill, while the cars behind used a field to get out of the way and I turned round. We rehitched and one of the Italians insisted on escorting us to the campsite we had been looking for. There are some very nice and helpful folk about.👍

vbfg replied on 23/09/2020 12:53

Posted on 23/09/2020 11:54 by Bakers2

I hate to even have to contemplate this let alone type it 😱 but as you were called love I assume you're female and the other driver was male?

Sadly this sort exists 😡😤sealed

I so like cyberyacht's reply 🤣

It is amazing how many folk can't reverse their car let alone anything bigger. Personally I'd always give way to a vehicle towing, I don't tow myself 😱. And equally I'd expect and be grateful if a car reversed for me in a motorhome, simply because they are shorter. All that said of course it does depend on the actual meeting point.

Sadly manners are not always evident in many walks of life these days, vehicle or no vehicle. The 'I'm more important/justified etc than you' prevails so often.

In Takethedogalong's instance I'd shift - a horse can do much damage and be unpredictable! But then you only have to watch other drivers approach a horse or cyclist 🚴‍♂️.  

Posted on 23/09/2020 12:53

I have not towed a caravan so can't comment and I don't profess to be a great driver but I can manage to reverse my motorhome so that it is next to the peg on a site (I don't have a reversing camera).  It really amazes me however, how many motorhomers find that so difficult to do, even with someone standing directing them to where the peg is situated.

SteveL replied on 23/09/2020 13:11

Posted on 23/09/2020 12:53 by vbfg

I have not towed a caravan so can't comment and I don't profess to be a great driver but I can manage to reverse my motorhome so that it is next to the peg on a site (I don't have a reversing camera).  It really amazes me however, how many motorhomers find that so difficult to do, even with someone standing directing them to where the peg is situated.

Posted on 23/09/2020 13:11

I think going in forward is more difficult. Reversing, the peg is clearly seen in the mirror. Forward it disappears below the bonnet and I never seem to allow right amount for the coach built bit.😂

EmilysDad replied on 23/09/2020 13:17

Posted on 23/09/2020 13:17

you just have to try to look that bit further up the road for any on-coming traffic so that the situation doesn't arise. I have had on-coming cars when on little B roads that move over 1/2" and think that provides enough room for you to pass them ..... I've just shrugged & suggested they either move over more or reverse to the nearest passing place ... it's worked so far.

Some drivers are just numpties .... I left St David's a few years back (the lanes to & from aren't exactly very wide) caravan in tow, & while waiting, in the wider part of the road, for car & caravan a little further up the road to pass an on coming bus, a numpty in a Range Rover decided to overtake me and become part of the problem.  Some people don't look much passed the end of their bonnet.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/09/2020 15:04

Posted on 23/09/2020 12:53 by vbfg

I have not towed a caravan so can't comment and I don't profess to be a great driver but I can manage to reverse my motorhome so that it is next to the peg on a site (I don't have a reversing camera).  It really amazes me however, how many motorhomers find that so difficult to do, even with someone standing directing them to where the peg is situated.

Posted on 23/09/2020 15:04

As you say, you have no experience. Something on a pivot point (tow ball) behaves entirely differently to four wheels at the corners. Hopefully this will help you decide if you meet a caravan coming the other way in your MH, and you see the sense of being the one who has the easiest reverse.

Fully agree with your comment ED. Seeing more than just a few feet in front of the bonnet can save a lot of grief. My OH has done an EFAD course (Emergency Fire Appliance Driver, think nee naa, nee nah at 70mph😱) He saved us from serious injury on Dartmoor one holiday. Fast road, hidden dip, standing traffic in dip. Quick reactions took us onto grass verge, while seconds later umpteen vehicles concertina crashed behind us, carnage. No one badly hurt, but lots of whiplash, banged heads, exploded airbags and written off vehicles. We got away with needing new brakes. Didn’t even spoil the holiday.

Dave Nicholson replied on 23/09/2020 18:44

Posted on 23/09/2020 18:44

We’ve lived on a single track road for almost 25 years now and I can count on one hand the number of instances where people have acted like the one you came across. It was probably because they were incapable of reversing  well themselves. Reversing a sizeable caravan is far easier than reversing a smaller folding one so don’t question your ability. The shorter the trailer the more difficult it is to reverse it. 

I do recall an instance about 10 years ago when a guy refused to reverse about 5 metres to a passing place. Had he been towing I would happily have reversed the 100 metres around two corners to the nearest passing place behind me but on this instance I got out of the car, locked it and turned to walk back home. He soon found his reversing abilities!

Boff replied on 23/09/2020 20:00

Posted on 23/09/2020 20:00

Most people are fine.   There is always one sexist AH.  You have probably given him the only excitement he has had in months.  

First time out after look down we went to a small site the last mile was single track fortunately about 300yds from the turn in there were 3 caravan stationary.  The reason was a Dutch HGV that apparently run out of time on his tachograph and couldn’t move for the next 20 minutes that was interesting.   On a serious point it is actually easier to reverse a long trailer than a short one, I can these days get my 8m caravan to reverse in the general direction I want.  With my little trailer I use for taking rubbish to the tip I am hopeless.   This is because a small trailer reacts so much quicker

ScreenNameF6C0C3E5B0 replied on 23/09/2020 22:56

Posted on 23/09/2020 08:31 by Tinwheeler

There is no rule and no right or wrong. However, anyone towing needs to he capable of reversing their unit to cope with such an eventuality. 

Buses and tractors will often reverse because it's quicker for them to do so than to wait for a tugger to struggle but they haven't always got the space needed. Would any of us seriously sit tight and expect a bus to give way? Would any of us automatically expect any vehicle to give way? It's no wonder caravans and the like get a bad name at times.

Posted on 23/09/2020 22:56

I was accused by a man who showed no willingness to reverse a small car a matter of feet, of "needing more practice, luv". The irony did not go unobserved. I would argue it's people like him who give men a bad name rather than people like me giving caravanners a bad name! ;-) Feel free to PM me if you feel you need to discuss further.

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