First off Grid trip

ScreenName6C413F338F replied on 04/01/2022 17:00

Posted on 04/01/2022 17:00

Hi all Happy New Year, 

After some advice wrt powering our van whilst off grid for a week next year. Currently weighing up options and any advice would be great!

 So I've got a few questions (apologies if these are basics but we are new to caravanning). We have a solar light system from our tenting days that we could use for lighting so that shouldn't be an issue, but we're going to need some power during the week to power up various gadgets etc. plus we want the fridge up and running. So:

Is it more cost effective to run the fridge off the gas or leisure battery if off grid?

If we were to run the fridge of the gas bottle how quickly would we run out of gas?

How long would the leisure battery last if we ran the fridge off it?

Is purchasing additional leisure batteries the way to go, or are there cheaper power alternatives that we could hook the van up to whilst we are away?

 

Thanks in advance 

obbernockle replied on 08/01/2022 10:46

Posted on 08/01/2022 10:33 by Wolfie1

If you need to charge your caravans battery that week your away connect your car back up to the caravan and leave it running for a couple of hours to recharge your caravan battery

Posted on 08/01/2022 10:46

What a dreadful thing to do!  I would not tolerate that on a pitch near me.

young thomas replied on 08/01/2022 10:47

Posted on 08/01/2022 10:47

Generators and ICE engines aren't the most environmentally friendly way of charging a battery, not to mention several hours of racket for your neighbours.

if folk want to be off grid (as an ongoing camping choice) and require the battery to be topped up throughout their stay, then a solar system seems the best way to go.

the savings on lower fees at CL and THS type sites will rack up at £10 or more a night and soon pay for that install.

furthermore, if this becomes a regular thing then the (typically Calor) gas supply will soon become a noticeable expense and investigating a refillable system like Safe fill (for caravaners) will be the next improvement. 
again, using gas at less than half price of Calor will also bring a smile to your face.πŸ‘

SteveL replied on 08/01/2022 11:34

Posted on 06/01/2022 15:33 by eurortraveller

Why do you need a fridge for a week? Campers with tents live outdoors without one easily enough. Shop daily for perishables - or eat at a pub, but cooking on a gas hob for a week won’t exhaust a cylinder. Charge your phone in the car when you go out . Buy a portable Camping Gaz lantern. Live simply. Many of us caravanned for years before there was any grid for us to go off it. 

Posted on 08/01/2022 11:34

Back packers maybe but not most campers.  We tented in Europe through the 80’s and 90’s always off grid. However, you could buy blocks of ice, or get your cold packs frozen, either on site or in a nearby shop. Those in a decent cold box preserved food equally as well as a domestic fridge.

Vanbirds68 replied on 10/01/2022 22:34

Posted on 05/01/2022 16:08 by ScreenName6C413F338F

Thanks all really appreciate your responses. laughing looks like an extra bottle of gas, check the lights to make sure that we are using LED (she's an old girl so probably needs them), battery check and possibly a solar panel to keep the battery topped up is in order. Any recommendations for a easy to fit solar set up would be great. I'd rather a portable system than anything fixed to the van. Having googled and looked through the suggested pages there is plenty of choice out there! Thanks again

Posted on 10/01/2022 22:34

We got our solar panel from Photonic Universe https://www.photonicuniverse.com/

Honestly, 60w (ish) is ample if it’s mainly for lights and charging devices. You would need a bigger one if you have a TV but don’t forget the bigger they are the heavier they are. 

Boff replied on 11/01/2022 07:12

Posted on 11/01/2022 07:12

There is a tremendous difference in performance between a free standing panel and one mounted on the roof.   The freestanding panel will be much more effective when deployed because of the angle it is deployed.   A 60W panel would probably be just enough if freestanding.   If roof mounted I would go bigger because the difference in cost is going to be fairly minimal.    

young thomas replied on 11/01/2022 08:20

Posted on 11/01/2022 08:20

agree with Boff re performance...facing the sun is best...but remember a stand alone panel needs to be turned throughout the day (the line of sun moves) and also needs to be made secure (locks/cables) or someone will have it...

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/01/2022 09:40

Posted on 11/01/2022 08:20 by young thomas

agree with Boff re performance...facing the sun is best...but remember a stand alone panel needs to be turned throughout the day (the line of sun moves) and also needs to be made secure (locks/cables) or someone will have it...

Posted on 11/01/2022 09:40

Is there such a thing as a ‘sun tracker’ on a small enough scale for LV’s or am I guilty of way too much SciFi watching BB?🀷🏻‍β™‚οΈπŸ˜¬

SeasideBill replied on 11/01/2022 11:07

Posted on 11/01/2022 08:20 by young thomas

agree with Boff re performance...facing the sun is best...but remember a stand alone panel needs to be turned throughout the day (the line of sun moves) and also needs to be made secure (locks/cables) or someone will have it...

Posted on 11/01/2022 11:07

Ideal is obviously south, rule of thumb for angle is latitude + 15 degrees in winter, latitude - 15 degrees in summer. There’s not a huge difference between efficiency on flat mounted -v- 30 degree mounted panel in summer .

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