What Gas?

johnthomo replied on 16/09/2018 11:45

Posted on 16/09/2018 11:45

We're taking delivery of our first Motorhome on 26th and the options of different types of gas are not as simple as I thought. Propane, Butane, refillable? The dealership are pushing the refillable option at nearly £500 for a 11kg and a 6kg bottle. I understand the convenience. However, that's £380 more expensive than the exchangeable option. I'd really appreciate some experienced advice please.    

replied on 17/09/2018 15:13

Posted on 17/09/2018 14:49 by richardandros

If you're thinking of Safefill as an option, you will be extremely lucky to get hold of one.  I think I managed to source the only one left in the North of England, yesterday, and did a round trip of 200 miles to grab it.  Even Safefill don't have any.  I did find out why - and couldn't believe it - and I don't think I dare publish the reason on here.

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Boff replied on 17/09/2018 15:42

Posted on 17/09/2018 15:42

I think that there are still a few of the smaller 5kg and 7.5kg bottles about.  I was after a 10kg bottle last month and safefill told me where there was one in n Wales, unfortunately they wanted stupid money.  I tracked one down in a chandlers in Norfolk.  The supply has been an issue all the time.  The current on is mark 3 I have also got a mark 1.  The mk1 is actually heavier than a Calorlite. 

 

MichaelT replied on 17/09/2018 16:00

Posted on 17/09/2018 16:00

We have Gaslow one large bottle and a calor light as a backup in case we run out (not happened so far) but we could also use same space to use a local bottle if away for a time (Spain is very cheap apparently).  You will find with a MH you use more gas as the fridge auto switches when you stop and you will likely be off grid more so refillable is hte best way to go IMHO.

richardandros replied on 17/09/2018 16:29

Posted on 17/09/2018 15:13 by

Gone bust or bought out by Calor or similar?

Posted on 17/09/2018 16:29

Neither DD.  More to do with certain pressures being put on someone who manufactures their valves. He also manufactures for someone else. 'Nuff said.

young thomas replied on 17/09/2018 16:33

Posted on 17/09/2018 14:49 by richardandros

If you're thinking of Safefill as an option, you will be extremely lucky to get hold of one.  I think I managed to source the only one left in the North of England, yesterday, and did a round trip of 200 miles to grab it.  Even Safefill don't have any.  I did find out why - and couldn't believe it - and I don't think I dare publish the reason on here.

Posted on 17/09/2018 16:33

I can't see a MHer choosing Safefil over a 'fixed filler' system as there is a risk that the stand alone bottle (SF) won't be permitted, whereas there is rarely an issue with fixed filler type systems.

also, the MHer always has his MH with hime when filling on holiday, doesn't he?.....so,why a removable refillable? 

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Posted on 17/09/2018 16:29 by richardandros

Neither DD.  More to do with certain pressures being put on someone who manufactures their valves. He also manufactures for someone else. 'Nuff said.

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cyberyacht replied on 17/09/2018 17:23

Posted on 17/09/2018 17:23

Had I been starting from scratch with a MH system, I'd have probably gone for Gaslow or similar but as I had my Safefill from the caravan....

It does have the advantage that you can see how much gas is left.

BlueVanMan replied on 17/09/2018 18:49

Posted on 17/09/2018 18:49

Distilling some of what has been said already.

As a new motorhomer you have to "learn the trade" and one of the big mistakes is to be like a kid in a sweetshop as regards accessories. Go slowly and buy what you need as you identify and understand your needs. Accessories are a multi-million pound industry for a  reason !

You certainly need one gas cylinder and depending on the size of your van and the capacity of the gas locker possibly two. Hopefully the supplying dealer will give you at least one as a freebie. It should be propane then you dont need to worry about winter use it will be fine however cold. Buying a refillable depends on frequency of use if you google you may be able to find a calculator to guide you. 

http://ourleapoffaith.co.uk/the-refillable-gas-question. If your use is low but you plan to go to Europe for more than a couple of weeks a gaslow system will save a lot of worry and faff using/connecting to local cylinders . No point in having two cylinders though. Just one and keep it topped up with a "Calor" one as a backup. 

Hope this helps 

hitchglitch replied on 17/09/2018 21:15

Posted on 17/09/2018 21:15

Most important that you think carefully about how much gas you will use. Motorhoming in Europe in the summer with hook-up on every site you will use tiny amounts of gas. We have an LPG tank and I used around 3kg in 5 weeks. 

So, if that’s the case then forget about large investments in Safefill or anything else and buy a refillable cylinder. The best in the UK are Gas Light as they are - the lightest, transparent (so you can see the level) and have clip-on gas attachment. HOWEVER, the main stockist is Homebase and who knows how long they will be around!

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