An appeal to Safefill users - and others!

Posted on 15/08/2018 21:13 by Cornersteady

Here's an interesting point.

There are 550000 caravans and 250000 MH at present. I can't see many caravans converting to safefill due to the problem of filling up while towing, easy on Motorways but not so easy to impossible at the Morrsions I use. So lets say a 100,000 covert. Assume all the MH convert to safefill, that's a total of 350,000. Now assume they all fill up their 6Kg once a year.

That's 350,000 x 6 = 2,100,000 kg. Now I have just seen that 1 kg of propane = just under 2 litres volume, say 2 litres.

So that's 4,200,000 litres at 40p per litre =  £1,680,000

Divide that by the current number of petrol stations in the UK - 8000

That mean each petrol station will make a very tidy sum of £210 per year. I wonder what the profit if on Safefill, and if you take into account the installation costs, will it be worth it to have safefill at every station? 

Don't forget that's assuming every single MH goes to safefill (other brands are available)

Posted on 15/08/2018 21:13 by Cornersteady

Here's an interesting point.

There are 550000 caravans and 250000 MH at present. I can't see many caravans converting to safefill due to the problem of filling up while towing, easy on Motorways but not so easy to impossible at the Morrsions I use. So lets say a 100,000 covert. Assume all the MH convert to safefill, that's a total of 350,000. Now assume they all fill up their 6Kg once a year.

That's 350,000 x 6 = 2,100,000 kg. Now I have just seen that 1 kg of propane = just under 2 litres volume, say 2 litres.

So that's 4,200,000 litres at 40p per litre =  £1,680,000

Divide that by the current number of petrol stations in the UK - 8000

That mean each petrol station will make a very tidy sum of £210 per year. I wonder what the profit if on Safefill, and if you take into account the installation costs, will it be worth it to have safefill at every station? 

Don't forget that's assuming every single MH goes to safefill (other brands are available)

Posted on 15/08/2018 21:32 by KjellNN

Do you never fill fuel in your car while towing?

I cannot say we find it a problem.

However, the whole point of Safefill is that it is a removable refillable, so no need to take the caravan to the filling point, just stick the cylinder in the car.

We do not have Safefill, we have Gaslow, which similarly is refillable, and they have both systems, removable and fixed.  We have fixed, and have not had a problem with finding or accessing a place to refill en route between sites.

Posted on 15/08/2018 21:48 by

I think that one of your assumptions is extremely generous CS.  The vast majority of MHers will never use removable cylinders; they will use installed (fixed) refillables as they have been doing for many years.   

Posted on 15/08/2018 22:44 by KjellNN

We generally do similar, but on a longer trip we sometimes need to top up en route to make sure we reach our destination. The Tesco  just off J43 on the M6 at Carlisle is one we use frequently.

Not sure I understand the point you are making in your last paragraph, but the main difference would be that a 6 kg refill would cost you about  £7.50, not the approx. £25 for a Calor.

The price of LPG is way more than 40ppl, usually 55p+.

For someone who uses as little gas as you do, there is no point in having a refillable, but for those of us who get through the equivalent of several 6kg cylinders every year, there are big savings to be made.

Safefill, as you said, is only one make of refillable cylinder, there are several others, but they are all filled in the same manner.

Posted on 16/08/2018 08:45 by EmilysDad

@ Corners ... Anyway I've never done that either as we always swop it on a club site or at a service.

I've never done either 

Posted on 16/08/2018 07:44 by Johnny57

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