CLs instead of Club sites

I suppose many CLs are cheaper but still offer good facilities. CC is more expensive, but then CC income supports a web site, a discussion group on here, booking facilities for UK and overseas sites, tech advice, and all the admin that goes with a big organisation. The annual sub probably doesn’t cover that. 

It appears to me that our club is managed by people with a very different mindset to the one  posted here by a CL owner.

Have prices been maintained after installation? Difficult to know perhaps? I assume CL's do out their prices up?

I think it  may be more about finding the money as well? The highest quote for a meter per bollard has been £500, which no one has disputed. Could be lower but there is a cost.

So a five site CL will cost £2500 or less, which I think is quite achievable for a business to raise that? A CL owner might think that makes it more attractive to potential CL users and people like yourself  with good gas and SP setup and makes the price look more attractive and so worth it to them to spend that money as well as being easier to manage?

For the club however that would be £5 million - more difficult to raise?

For various reasons over the years and two owners( if we're talking about the same site) it hasn't had consistent care. However it has it's devotees who accept these things and appreciate the beauty of the setting and access to a tidal creek for boats and fishing etc. Not every CL needs to be manicured does it, for us, in this instance, it's location and access to nature.

Hopefully CG can provide more detail, hence my question to him. 

The point is, like the club, a CL won't be able to recoup that investment by increasing electric charges so it's dead money..why invest it if not to stop pitch prices running away and ensuing loss of business.

yes, the absolute numbers are higher for the club but the ratio per night visit is the same.

eventually those passed on electric prices will be taken notice of even by the most stalwart of CC customers. 

oThe point is, like the club, a CL won't be able to recoup that investment by increasing electric charges so it's dead money..why invest it if not to stop pitch prices running away and ensuing loss of business

Well as I said I think (might be wrong) that the £2500 needed or much less would be quite easy to raise for a business? A simple loan could cover it? Again I'm not nor ever have been in business so don't quote me on that but I personally don't think £2500 for a business or even an individual is a lot (yes I know lucky me I sure people will say)

The point I was trying to make that while it may be lost money a CL owner might think it might bring in more business by either appearing to offer a lower price and/or be more attractive to people with outfits like your self who say they want or like the idea of non paying for EHU and don't want full fat club sites all the time. Does anyone think that the club bringing in metering will lead to an increase in booking's? I don't but just my view and anyway would that matter, the club is getting more bookings that it can supply at times?

yes, the absolute numbers are higher for the club but the ratio per night visit is the same

Irrelevant in my view as it is the amount that needs to be found that is the important factor (and can it be 'written off' if it doesn't pay off? £2500 might be?) and as I said the club will need to find £5,000,000.

Has the growing prices put anyone off yet? Are they likely to? I'm not sure at all. people will see their own energy costs rise and just accept the club has to too? Like you I've been on this forum a long time, and every year the prices are complained about yet club usage continues to rise.

In fact how many questions at the AGM were about high prices? Not one I recall, yet quite a  number of not getting a pitch. 

But and the end of the day the club has decided not to go down this route at this time and perhaps for a few years.

Btw, let’s not forget that expenditure on upgrading a site will be tax deductible and VAT paid on achieving it will be reclaimable which may be especially useful to a small business such as a CL.

In the last 10 years I have stayed on well over 100 CLs at a very conservative estimate. I have yet to stay on one that has metred electricity. In fact I have never stayed on a CL which has metres, AFAIR.

I am therefore puzzled as to how CG can state "many" when talking about CL owners installing them. There may well be a few more than there used to be but, many? I think not. Let's not overhype the situation.

I have seen CLs increase their prices in winter months on a more frequent basis and I can see CL prices in general increasing judging by my recently arranged new home energy tariff which had a significant hike. 

But, lots of meters there ain't.

Corners wrote "Has the growing prices put anyone off yet?"

Yes, me for one. I haven't used a single CAMC site this year. I have, however, used 7 C&CC ones, 1 commercial, 1 THS, 7 CLs or associated Venue facilities plus 4 "freebie" nights.

The above has enabled me to keep my pitch cost average to £13.12 over the course of the year.

As for sociability, part of our reason for touring is for peace and quiet so social interaction isn't high on our list but it doesn't stretch to avoiding eye contact. 

Our touring here this year has seen a similar mix of site providers...CC, when used, won't be at the cheaper end...so, yes, cost is an influence.

I might be a 'lucky me' too, in that I can afford to stay on sites where I choose, but I don't like to be on the end of ever increasing cost where I don't feel I'm getting any more for it when compared to the competition.

location will usually drive our site selection but, where choices are similar, cost will probably come next....so, a nice CL or CCC site as 'handy' as the nearest CC one would probably get our vote.

no doubt the club's view will be to maintain its current pricing policy....the customer picks up the ever increasing tab.