Safefill 10Kg

HillClimb replied on 07/04/2016 12:28

Posted on 07/04/2016 12:28

New to caravaning, we've not even got our caravan yet - it is on on order from Elddis. So we've been doing a lot of research, there is a lot of data out there on the internet but I was struggling to find out what size of gas bottles would fit in to the gas locker of our van (which we haven't got yet).

So after a trip to the (not so local) Caravan Accessory shop at Webbs in Reading - (they were brilliant - so... helpful) . They helped by allowing me to take one of their 10kg Safefill bottles over to a Elddis 55x Caravan display model - that has the same structure/footprint as ours. So I can confirm that a 10kg Safefill cylinder will fit in to the gas locker of a Elddis 55x.  (And being refillable then I just need the one cylinder).

Doubtless everyone has there own preferances on Calorlite vs BP GasLight vs Safefill etc etc. For me, I was persuaded by the quantity of LPG fill suppliers listed and the cost-of-ownership. For ease of maths, I simply calculated what the total spend would be  once 30kg of gas has been consumed (initial rental + swaps for 2 cyclinder for BP or Calor)

30kg of Gas:

BPGaslight £238 (two initial rentals + 4 swaps) - (however you can get a refund if your no longer need the cylinders, so reducing the cost of ownership to reflect their residual value then 30kg would cost £213).

Calorlite £172 (two initial rentals + 3 swaps - I assume Calorlite's can also be refunded - but couldn't find how much?)

Purchase of a Single 10kg Safefill cylinder + 30kg of gas = £177

Redoing the math for 60kg; then Gaslight £375; Calorlite £310; Safefill £194

I pondered the 2 Rental Cylinders; 1 runs out; swap to the spare and exchange the empty (at our leisure (i.e. non urgent)) scenario - but a fair comparison for Safefill is: top-up the part full 10kg Safefill before departing; occasionaly check the gauge or look at the visible level and take it for another refill before it runs out (when we happen to be passing somewhere that does LPG refills). 

Hope this info helps others in their research/decision making

ChrisRogers replied on 07/04/2016 13:41

Posted on 07/04/2016 13:41

Good choice, have had a Safefill cylinder (8.6kg/15ltrs) for a few years now using cheap gas, cost of cylinder is now paid for and as you say, just top it up and always go off will a full cylinder and with a 150w solar panal no need for EHU.

1Tracey1 replied on 07/04/2016 14:09

Posted on 07/04/2016 14:09

We filled ours up the other weekend at a cost of £8 (it was empty as we had been unprepared and ran out!!).  We have the middle sized bottle, I think this may be 10kg but cannot remember.

JayEss replied on 07/04/2016 16:23

Posted on 07/04/2016 16:23

It looks like you've calculated gaslight using the 5kg cylinders. There's also a 10kg (which has the same dimensions as the 10kg safefill) which should be a maximum of £33 to refill and generally less. 

Gaslight is definitely more expensive than calorlite but I'm surprised it's so much more.

If I hadn't been given two calorlites when I bought my van I'd have bought safefill but the numbers don't stack up for us. 

Metheven replied on 07/04/2016 16:46

Posted on 07/04/2016 16:46

To replace two 6kg (gas) steel bottles, I rented a 10kg (gas) Gaslight from Hedon hire near me recently at £51 bottle hire and gas, future refills were quoted at £24 something. so for 30kg of gas usage it will work out at £99 something. Only just fits into my front locker mind.

JayEss replied on 07/04/2016 18:03

Posted on 07/04/2016 18:03

You did well there Dave. Homebase shows the price of rental plus gas at £72.99 and refills at £32.99 but it's always included in their discount weekends so it can be cheaper.  

30kg of gaslight in the 10kg cylinders at homebase price would be £139 and there's a refund possible. This is why safefill doesn't stack up for me as I was given an empty gaslight cylinder and don't use as much gas as others. 

The situation is constantly under review Wink

ATDel replied on 07/04/2016 19:01

Posted on 07/04/2016 19:01

If we used more gas we would splash out on safe fill but we use less than one calor light a year, only use gas for the cooker and hob, I think the payback for us would be over 10 years!! so unless our vanning changes we will stick with the calor lights

RangeRoverMan replied on 07/04/2016 19:02

Posted on 07/04/2016 19:02

I've used 2 calorlite in 10 years. They were both within the recall scheme so I have had both of them exchanged  for free. Hopefully that's my gas sorted until 2026.

Tirril replied on 07/04/2016 20:14

Posted on 07/04/2016 20:14

If you are new to caravaning and need to buy gas cylinders then that is the ideal point at which to invest in Safefill etc. Even though I have 2 Calorlite it has still paid me to move to Safefill as I use a lot of CLs without EHUs. However if like Rangeroverman using EHUs then the gas consumption will be low and savings by switching from an existing Calor etc would be harder to justify.

Surfer replied on 09/04/2016 11:52

Posted on 09/04/2016 11:52

Although we are not high gas users at only 2 - 3 bottles a year, at least we can stick up a finger at Calor Gas's racketering charges.  The last 6kg Calorlite we refilled cost us £28.99.  For that price I can fill our 10kg bottle almost three times from empty!  Obviously if you only use one bottle of gas a year probably not worth it!

Tirril replied on 10/04/2016 21:18

Posted on 10/04/2016 21:18

The other advantage of refillables is that you only need to carry one cylinder and don't run at inconvenient times as you can refill at anytime without having to run the gas low.

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