Volvo Polestar Upgrade

Liz BT replied on 18/03/2019 16:33

Posted on 18/03/2019 16:33

We have just purchased a five year old Volvo XC70 D4 automatic. The fuel consumption on our maiden voyage towing was around 24mpg (34mpg without the van). Our twelve year old XC70 D5 manual was averaging at around 33mpg (38mpg without the van). We have been advised to get the engine chipped with Volvo's Polestar at a cost of £650. I was just wondering if anyone else has had this done? If so, was there any improvement in the fuel economy?

Tinwheeler replied on 18/03/2019 17:22

Posted on 18/03/2019 17:22

I’d stick with it as it is. Those mpg figures sound acceptable to me.

You'd need to tell your insurance company if you had it chipped which might, or might not, affect your premium.

Oneputt replied on 18/03/2019 17:45

Posted on 18/03/2019 17:45

I had my Honda CRV re-chipped 2 years ago by a local specialist it cost £180.00

 

Honda CRV it should have a bosh EDC17 ecu which will be tricore protected we quote around 20-25bhp and 70nm on average 

What was more important to me was it gives me about 50 mpg per tank than what I got before the new chip.

I informed my insurance company and that modification cost peanuts

EmilysDad replied on 18/03/2019 18:11

Posted on 18/03/2019 16:41 by JVB66

An auto will always return lower mpg than a manual and £650 will take quite a bit of mpg to recoupsurprised

Posted on 18/03/2019 18:11

That was/ is usually the case with a slush box torque converter auto but improved fuel consumption is also one if the reasons why manufacturers are tending to go for automated manuals such as Volvos Geartronic auto box

ocsid replied on 18/03/2019 18:42

Posted on 18/03/2019 18:42

Is the box an intelligent one likely to learn how to optimise itself whilst towing?

Its "normal" state is certain to be optimised for solo with the change points and lock ups placed to best suit that.

Slap the mass and drag of a caravan on the back, which gets 80 or 90% more mass, and greatly increased drag.

Therefore,  towing I would expect the torque converter will be working overtime, struggling to overcome the slip and benefit from "locking up", as intended in its target role. If it is intelligent it ought to improve during a long tow.

Have you experimented with using it in "sport" [assuming it has that feature], whilst towing?

I suspect from this, any chipping needs to target the gearbox's towing behaviour more than the engine's.

birderbilly replied on 18/03/2019 20:17

Posted on 18/03/2019 18:11 by EmilysDad

That was/ is usually the case with a slush box torque converter auto but improved fuel consumption is also one if the reasons why manufacturers are tending to go for automated manuals such as Volvos Geartronic auto box

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:17

Volvos Geartronic is not an automated manual its a true torque converter just with the ability to drive in "manual" mode.  The latest and greatest true auto boxes from BMW etc are just as frugal as manuals not least because they are locked out most of the time.

Tinwheeler replied on 18/03/2019 20:24

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:24

Courtesy of Wikipedia -

"Geartronic is Volvo Cars' name for its manumatic transmission, similar to Porsche's Tiptronic. It is available in 4, 5, 6, and 8 speed models, and is controlled by a microprocessor. The microprocessor automatically shifts to the next gear if a forgetful user in manual mode red lines the engine. Manual shifting is allowed with the gear stick in the manual mode. The gear stick can also be used just like any other automatic gearbox, where the transmission will shift automatically."

birderbilly replied on 18/03/2019 20:38

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:24 by Tinwheeler

Courtesy of Wikipedia -

"Geartronic is Volvo Cars' name for its manumatic transmission, similar to Porsche's Tiptronic. It is available in 4, 5, 6, and 8 speed models, and is controlled by a microprocessor. The microprocessor automatically shifts to the next gear if a forgetful user in manual mode red lines the engine. Manual shifting is allowed with the gear stick in the manual mode. The gear stick can also be used just like any other automatic gearbox, where the transmission will shift automatically."

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:38

yes a torque converter box - Volvos automated manual in the DSG sense was the Powershift now dropped in favour of the (much better) 8 speed auto/geartronic.

The OPs car will not be a powershift as the XC70 was never fitted with the D2 engine as far as I can remember.

EmilysDad replied on 18/03/2019 20:39

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:17 by birderbilly

Volvos Geartronic is not an automated manual its a true torque converter just with the ability to drive in "manual" mode.  The latest and greatest true auto boxes from BMW etc are just as frugal as manuals not least because they are locked out most of the time.

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:39

Looks like Tinny has confirmed what I said .... It's an automated manual  😉

birderbilly replied on 18/03/2019 20:49

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:39 by EmilysDad

Looks like Tinny has confirmed what I said .... It's an automated manual  😉

Posted on 18/03/2019 20:49

Nope - my Volvo has a geartronic gearbox and and I can assure you it's a torque converter as they always have been.  Only Powershift were auto "manuals" and derived from when Volvo used Ford engines.

 

Oh and Posches tip boxes are just TC boxes with paddles.  The auto manuals are the PDK boxes.

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