Has Covid-19 Put a Nail in the Coffin of Centres?

AlanPort replied on 12/06/2020 13:36

Posted on 12/06/2020 13:36

I’ve been a Centre member for over 30 years and have always enjoyed the social aspects and comradeship of rallying as have many other members.  However, over the years, the simple pleasures of joining with friends on a farm field, parkland or even school playing field seems to have waned.  The Caravan Club began as a rallying group and sites were gradually purchased to accommodate those who wished to travel solo or with one or two other outfits and gradually communal blocks were added.

It’s good to see that club sites are due to open during July as announced on the website and in the email to all members received this morning.  However, there is no mention on either regarding Centre rallies.  These were cancelled by directive from East Grinstead a couple of weeks before Club sites were closed and it seems the Club is slow in coming forward to allow Centres to start running rallies again.  As rallies do not generally use locations where communal facilities are provided and rallies use their own onboard facilities, I’m not sure why rallies can’t be trusted to socially distanced in an open field.

What are the views of other Centre members on this?

DavidKlyne replied on 01/07/2020 21:18

Posted on 30/06/2020 18:27 by ValR

It seem a mixed message coming from the club, it is alright to pay to go on a club site (with probably more than 30 people) with Toilets and showers being used than from what we have been told by our centre it is against the law (So the club emailed him) to rally in a field keeping social distancing rules  and using your own facilities. Is this not a case of the club putting their money making before the members acting responsibly and rallying. maybe we will consider whether we will join next year

Posted on 01/07/2020 21:18

Surely the issue is that  on a campsite the Club can control what happens because they have a warden team. Additionally it is quite likely the majority of people on a campsite don't know each other and from my experience you would be lucky to get a Good Morning out of most of them  A Rally is different as the majority are likely to know each other and it is very easy for social distancing to become more relaxed and the Club has no control over that. Heaven forbid but if that resulted in a spike of infections it is likely the Club would have to close down quite a lot, if not all of its operation because it would be seen as not being able to control things in their name. I appreciate that is hard on all those that like rallying but I suspect the Club do not want to put themselves in that position.

David

AlanPort replied on 01/07/2020 21:56

Posted on 01/07/2020 21:56

The inference in some of the previous comments is that Centre members who run rallies will be unable to monitor and control social distancing regulations, whereas site wardens will.  Those of us running rallies will not need to monitor toilet block and regularly clean showers as rallies use their own onboard facilities.  It will therefore be easier to monitor what is going on around the rally field.

When we have stayed on Club sites in the recent past, it has been noticeable that, despite speed limits being in place on all sites and signs being posted around the site, many caravan and motor home drivers seem to totally ignore these speed restrictions.  The wardens try their best, but I think that most would admit to not being able to enforce these restrictions and often meet with abuse from those who are confronted.  When we run rallies, most members know us and know that they will be reprimanded if they break the rules and invariably comply as they know us.

We have a few Club sites booked during the summer and autumn in the absence of available rallies and will be watching closely to see how Covid restrictions are enforced.  I know that the wardens will be doing their best but suspect that the speeding drivers will also consider that the Covid rules do not apply to them.  Time will tell.

brue replied on 01/07/2020 22:02

Posted on 01/07/2020 22:02

I think I would trust people to abide by the guidelines on a rally. The spacing is carefully mapped out. Not all are in social groups but people are friendly (my experience anyway.) Fingers crossed things improve with time. smile

bill replied on 02/07/2020 08:45

Posted on 02/07/2020 08:45

While the exemption certificate has been revoked until the end of July stopping rallies any that were planned to run on a commercial site are also being cancelled under it being illegal to organise a mass gathering of over 30 people which a rally is considered to be.  I am running a seaside 3 week holiday rally mid August and just keeping my fingers crossed.  Also it was sadly reported on my local radio this morning that many people from Leicester holiday in this area.

replied on 02/07/2020 08:56

Posted on 02/07/2020 08:56

The inference in some of the previous comments is that Centre members who run rallies will be unable to monitor and control social distancing regulations, whereas site wardens will.  Those of us running rallies will not need to monitor toilet block and regularly clean showers as rallies use their own onboard facilities.  It will therefore be easier to monitor what is going on around the rally field.

I suspect an inference that was not intended to be taken as such. 

grin factor replied on 02/07/2020 13:11

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:11

Anti social distancing will be reduced to 1 meter at the weekend. Even the WHO stated that 1 meter was sufficient weeks ago. The government has issued “Guidelines” these are Not as people believe Law! What ever happened to personal responsibility? This government are turning into a dictatorship. If you look on NHS England’s website, you can find the true death figures From Covid19, 1350 last time I looked, the other numbers have been manipulated by our “leaders”

Youve probably guess I don’t believe the MSM, Boris, Matt & Co, and it frustrates the life out of me to see people swallowing the drivel dished out. 

We all have brains to think for ourselves, many may disagree with my comments, but do a bit research, you never know what you will find.

 

bill replied on 02/07/2020 14:46

Posted on 02/07/2020 13:11 by grin factor

Anti social distancing will be reduced to 1 meter at the weekend. Even the WHO stated that 1 meter was sufficient weeks ago. The government has issued “Guidelines” these are Not as people believe Law! What ever happened to personal responsibility? This government are turning into a dictatorship. If you look on NHS England’s website, you can find the true death figures From Covid19, 1350 last time I looked, the other numbers have been manipulated by our “leaders”

Youve probably guess I don’t believe the MSM, Boris, Matt & Co, and it frustrates the life out of me to see people swallowing the drivel dished out. 

We all have brains to think for ourselves, many may disagree with my comments, but do a bit research, you never know what you will find.

 

Posted on 02/07/2020 14:46

I understand that the no gatherings of more than 30 people is a law and not a guideline.

brue replied on 02/07/2020 15:09

Posted on 02/07/2020 15:09

And the two metre rule is still in place, only reduced in "mitigating" circumstances where it's not possible to maintain the distance.

TARTANTRAVELLER replied on 03/07/2020 10:33

Posted on 03/07/2020 10:33

Most of our rally marshals said that they do not want to be responsible for having to enforce covid restriction rules because, as in a previous reply,  we generally all know each other and there's a risk that some of the cliques will have their own interpretation of the rules when they've had a few drinks. 

I'm also going to a club site this month and I'm wondering how the wardens will be treated by any non conformists.   I hold the greatest regards for the club's wardens and having witnessed some of the abuse they get I can only praise their level of self restraint.

JVB66 replied on 03/07/2020 10:41

Posted on 03/07/2020 10:33 by TARTANTRAVELLER

Most of our rally marshals said that they do not want to be responsible for having to enforce covid restriction rules because, as in a previous reply,  we generally all know each other and there's a risk that some of the cliques will have their own interpretation of the rules when they've had a few drinks. 

Posted on 03/07/2020 10:41

And that is the same with many posts on here (interpretation)wink

We rallied for a while but as you post about Cliques ,at times it was as if there were rallies within rallies ,but as some of us went on rallies to enjoy a new place ,the Cliques ,went because it was the "done thing"undecided

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