Non EHU & enforced EHU

Oh for goodness sake Garry - enforced EHU ! ? Why oh why is there always someone who will moan about absolutely anything.

Firstly, there were the maximum number of pitches available for that site as determined by the Estate management NOT the Club, so some didn't get in - well they will have to book earlier in future won't they, this is how it used to be, book when booking opens or run that risk, there is no site in this country that would provide enough pitches for the entire membership. Yes there were empty spaces around us - on land we were not allowed to use, the EHUs were nothing to do with it. 

Secondly, those EHUs... ralliers totally used to using their own power are in the minority these days, more people actually appreciate EHU than not, some of them are even ralliers too. We now have the technology (and a heck of a team of volunteers) and can give EHU to everyone so why not do it, it is easier than leaving out a few for those than don't want it and as the team would have to work round those anyway no great amount of money is saved.

In no way is this a backwards step, it is the future, so get with the programme or don't hook up if you are that determined to stay off grid, no one will force you, promise !

Alison

Allison, firstly I do not like your tone, we are all entitled to have our say on what we prefer, that is what the forum is for, secondly as your profile shows you are a non centre rallier, how can you know what centre ralliers really want, I am only stating on here what I have talked about at our rallies.

Do I assume you are 'someone' from the club or do you just happen to have an opinion and assume non EHu's are in the minority.

So are all future nationals to be EHU ?

Garry, how can you possibly judge my 'tone' ? you presume it perhaps, possibly just because I disagree with you, am I not also allowed to voice my opinion here?

I am at present a non-centre rallier, but a rallier nevertheless of 30 yr standing and have rallied with many centres over those years and yes, talked to many centre members. We let our centre membership lapse when circumstances stopped us being able to get out on rallies for a while.

I am not 'someone' from the Club but I am a volunteer who works at the National and goes in early (though nowhere near as early as many) to help set up and I still disagree that EHUs are a 'backward' step just because a few don't want to avail themselves of it, as I said - no-one will force you to use it. The National is a 'set price' event and is cheap for what you get, so if you are saying a few are not going to come in future if it is all EHUs, well then I say they are cutting off their noses to spite their faces as my Dad use to say 

Wasn't this thread about choice? Could you not book non EHU pitches this year? Will there be any choice in the future? In anticipation of an answer from the Club.

peedee

This, year I believe that all pitches at the national had EHU as  GaryP has correctly asserted.  So there was no choice or diversity.  So even if a tiny minority didn't want ehu they had no choice   My understanding is that GaryP's post is correct in its assertions    

To state that as Firedragon has that the number of pitches was determined by the ESTATE.  Well 2 points if that is true, then why did the CC t/a CMC choose an unsuitable venue?   Alternatively I would bet money that number of pitches equaled the number ehu pitches the club had the capacity to provide. 

Coincidentaly I was told a story at the weekend, which may or may not be true.  That for a large rally in the north when they looked into the costing of hiring generators.  It turn out that a commercial company could supply them at a third of the cost the club wanted for their's. 

Thanks for your post GarryP. We didn't go to the National this year. Last year we were happily off EHU and I was surprised at this move. I can't believe those unlucky enough to be near the huge generators enjoyed the extra noise and I would prefer to have a choice re -cost.

In the past we have been on sites where people were using generators but they had to be turned off by 10pm.

At this years National they were running 24 hours a day. 

We were quite close to one of them & I had to use earplugs on occasion.

Some of us much prefer the peace & quiet of a Solar Panel to the constant noise & pollution of dirty great diesel generators.

 This prospect is what I dislike too, that must have been unpleasant especially in good weather with windows open.

So generators were run continually at the Club's own prestige event. Interesting point should someone be asked to turn their's off when staying on a Club site.

Sounds like there are more folk NOT wanting to use ehu than do want to  this surely is the rally way of camping. I agree choice should be given who wants to camp next to noisy smelly generators.