Club card v new technology

Andyt21 replied on 10/11/2018 09:11

Posted on 10/11/2018 09:11

I'm sure like me you find it a challenge to keep up with new technology and there is no doubt we now have more information at our fingertips than we could have imagined a few years ago. It des have a negative side but in general it is a positive influence on our lives. 

This year I have started using an app on my phone which means my wallet is much slimmer and not because it is expensive. I have got rid of a host of loyalty cards including my club membership card. The app scans the bar code or takes a picture and stores it in an easy to access file and you can present this when buying in store. 

But not on the M6 toll. I have only just found out about the discount so confidently arrived at the toll booth and showed my card only to be told she needed the actual card to apply the discount. No card, no discount. The offer is being withdrawn at the end of the year but on the same day The card was nearly refused again  

We arrIved  at the site we were heading for and the warden very politely pointed out that this could be a photo of someone else's although I have used on other sites without problem. 

So the issue here is similar. I could have taken a photo of a friends card in order to obtain the benefit. The answer however is not to go back to carrying a wallet full of cards but to have, and be prepared to show, evidence you are the person on the card. I still carry photo ID my driving license and happy to show this. 

And before you argue that it doesn't take up much space just have a look at all the cards you own.  Also consider the other options. I might have just borrowed the card from my friend /neighbour for the day as I knew I was going on the M6 toll. The card has no proof or link to me. I could use the automatic barrier and press the button for assistance (see terms and conditions) how does a physical card mKe a difference here? My site booking is linked to the vehicle I arrive in but the card doesn't prove my identity. 

So a very simple plea either make the card tech friendly. This doesn't have to be at the same level as my credit card / contactless payment but can prove I am the member. Or simply ask for proof of identity e.g. Credit card payment or driving license. Please don't force me to dig the out the cards again. 

rayjsj replied on 14/11/2018 22:18

Posted on 12/11/2018 19:19 by brue

So you get yourself to the entrance to somewhere and your battery is flat? It's a bit like people being rescued from mountain sides who used their phones as maps and then found they had no power left. Although phone technology is good a card at the moment is "gooder." wink

Posted on 14/11/2018 22:18

Actually  i get quite fed up with everyone insisting on Smart phone use for every little thing. My mobile phone is just that.....a phone, for getting in touch....by talking to another person, not a camera or a sat-nav, or a computer, which are very handy...i have a tablet and a laptop but dont want to carry them around everywhere. Oh yes, and I use cash and cheques, as well as a debit card. Smart Phones seem so....demanding , everyone seems obsessed by them, and no longer seem aware of the ACTUAL world going on around them. Just another gadget...handy but a gadget..no more.

 

Andyt21 replied on 15/11/2018 17:18

Posted on 14/11/2018 10:32 by DSB

I have a feeling that I have used my 'virtual' copy of the membership card I have on Stocard when booking in at a site.  I think it was probably at the wardens discretion.  I will try and see if the Club can accept this 'as standard' - I'll try and bring it up at the next Council meeting, to get a more definitive response.

David

Posted on 15/11/2018 17:18

Thanks David and others for comments.

There does seem to be a general feeling that this is possible and to go back to my original suggestion I don't mind proving  my identity with a driving licence or other photo ID so it is a no cost option for CMC. All I want is a few less cards in my wallet. 

My suggestion doesn't go as far as not having a card so...for those who prefer to carry the cards - carry on, fill your boots (well pockets) and for those who  warn of smartphone addiction/dependency - sorry that boat has sailed a while back. 

redface replied on 15/11/2018 17:52

Posted on 15/11/2018 17:52

Why take separate ID with you, just scan your Driving license in and tell them to look at that!

brue replied on 15/11/2018 19:22

Posted on 12/11/2018 00:35 by DSB

I have much sympathy with the opening post.  I have tried using an app to store cards - I've tried Stocard.  Sadly not all shops can read the card from the app.  It rather depends on the technology available at the shop.  I find it works about 50% of the time, but quite often the cashier has to enter the number in manually.  The worst for us, locally, is our local Co-op who just won't accept anything other than the real card!

David

Posted on 15/11/2018 19:22

I think this is the drawback at present, the technology is there but isn't 100% reliable. I can't be bothered with the unknown, if I'm in a shop etc something has to work so at present I'll be keeping the cards I need for the places I visit. smile

SteveL replied on 15/11/2018 22:23

Posted on 15/11/2018 19:22 by brue

I think this is the drawback at present, the technology is there but isn't 100% reliable. I can't be bothered with the unknown, if I'm in a shop etc something has to work so at present I'll be keeping the cards I need for the places I visit. smile

Posted on 15/11/2018 22:23

Hopefully, problems with scanning cards on phones will become less problematic, as shops equipment is updated. The photo shows the info M&S give on their digital version of the Sparks card. When we were in B&Q recently the fixed bar code scanner refused to read my card but the one on the cable, for use on heavy items, read it with ease. In a few years it is likely problems will be a thing of the past.

EmilysDad replied on 15/11/2018 23:10

Posted on 15/11/2018 17:52 by redface

Why take separate ID with you, just scan your Driving license in and tell them to look at that!

Posted on 15/11/2018 23:10

Even when your licenCe is on parchment ..... 😁

replied on 16/11/2018 07:11

Posted on 16/11/2018 07:11

I like my mobile in the bottom of my trouser pocket. Smartphones are too big for comfort and too small for me to make good use of the screen. My wallet easily holds my cards and is comfortable to carry

SteveL replied on 16/11/2018 08:24

Posted on 16/11/2018 07:11 by

I like my mobile in the bottom of my trouser pocket. Smartphones are too big for comfort and too small for me to make good use of the screen. My wallet easily holds my cards and is comfortable to carry

Posted on 16/11/2018 08:24

I resisted for a while, despite my sons both saying we would find one useful. Apple had got to 5s before we succumbed. We now have two, the original 5s and an SE, like you I am not a fan of the larger phones. Hopefully, they will continue to work for many years, as Apple no longer make these small smartphones. We find them particularly useful in unfamiliar towns, for google map and bus information. Also What's App for staying in touch with the family when away. Plus of course E tickets and some cards. Although those I use often I still carry.

brue replied on 16/11/2018 09:03

Posted on 15/11/2018 22:23 by SteveL

Hopefully, problems with scanning cards on phones will become less problematic, as shops equipment is updated. The photo shows the info M&S give on their digital version of the Sparks card. When we were in B&Q recently the fixed bar code scanner refused to read my card but the one on the cable, for use on heavy items, read it with ease. In a few years it is likely problems will be a thing of the past.

Posted on 16/11/2018 09:03

You wouldn't believe how long scanning technology has been "developing" we were involved with it at work over twenty years ago...I await further progress! Security is the major issue.

SteveL replied on 16/11/2018 09:27

Posted on 16/11/2018 09:03 by brue

You wouldn't believe how long scanning technology has been "developing" we were involved with it at work over twenty years ago...I await further progress! Security is the major issue.

Posted on 16/11/2018 09:27

Security is an issue which ever medium is used. A lot of it is down to what other checks are put in place. In Sainsbury's the other day I noticed they had an offer on to double up the value of your nectar points, to spend on wine, cloths, toys and a few others. To do this I took my card to customer services where they scanned it and gave me £30 of vouchers for the £15 pounds on the card. I then went and used it to buy wine. It might not have been my card, I might have just picked it up,off the floor. There was no request for additional identification.

 

 

 

 

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