Has the club made the right move?

tr54tds replied on 19/08/2023 18:02

Posted on 19/08/2023 18:02

I'm just wondering if anyone else feels the same as me. I understand that before deposits were introduced some people block booked popular sites and didn't arrive for those they didn't want which kept others from using them. I for one got annoyed at this. But my recent experience has left me with a bad taste in my mouth. On Thursday 18th August I made a booking for Clumber Park for 5 night from Sunday 20th August, thinking I could correct it if through my busy life I needed to amend it. I was surprised to learn I now needed to leave a deposit but oh well i did it anyway. When my wife came home from work she made me realise I needed to reduce the nights in favour of staying somewhere else prior so making our journey broken up. When trying to amend, it seemed I was being charged £16. We decided to call the club to see what we could do, only to be told we had to stand to the charge or lose the £20 deposit. They did waiver the charge after long discussions but after rethinking we have decided to not turn up and lose the deposit as it now doesn't fit with our travel plans. I am now thinking of cancelling my membership as I can't get along with this system as last minute bookings suit us and sometimes we need to change because of our busy lifestyles. I didn't sign up to the travel industry but a club which now seems to be into just making money. I also don't agree with being charged for visitors that also seems wrong to me. This along with the increase in prices leaves me thinking that I'm getting a hotel rather than a piece of turf (forgive the exaggeration). I think the club need to rethink what they are doing, there are other ways of stopping block booking like limiting how many bookings can be made or asking for deposits if making many bookings but for general bookings this new system is completely out of order and insensitive to customers who need to change plans, amend bookings and cancel sometimes. Does anyone else feel the same as we do?

LLM replied on 30/08/2023 11:29

Posted on 30/08/2023 10:13 by mbee1

I'd hardly consider any CAMC site facilities to be classed as "luxury".  I've recently written a review on Seacroft.  Yes it has a pool and a bar but the toilet and shower facilities are well past their best.  No hot water after 9am.  

We occasionally need to amend a booking largely because of my wife's work in the NHS. I've got into the habit now of only booking for 1 person and adding in the extra person for the requisite number of nights when I get there. If she knows she has to leave early we take both cars and I get a little rest and relaxation with the dog.

Posted on 30/08/2023 11:29

Such a shame that member have to find "work arounds" to achieve something that should be provided and easily accessible.  I can understand commercial sites protecting themselves but CAMC claims to be a club.  

Takethedogalong replied on 30/08/2023 11:35

Posted on 30/08/2023 11:35

Mbee, you are doing exactly what we shall do on our possible one and only use of a Club Site this year. I shall book us into Clumber the night before we set off, booking for just the one of us, and then I shall pop into reception and pay for me on arrival. That way, if I cannot turn up, the Club aren’t benefitting financially from my unfortunate circumstances. It’s only going to be for two nights anyway, and looking at availability, we might not even need to book a night ahead as there’s nothing down as “low availability”. 

DSB replied on 06/09/2023 12:13

Posted on 06/09/2023 12:13

Update:  Pleased that the CAMC have issued me with an e-voucher (to spend on future site fees) for the deposit we paid for Penrhos in view of our car breakdown in the Outer Hebrides.

David

Cornersteady replied on 06/09/2023 12:16

Posted on 06/09/2023 12:13 by DSB

Update:  Pleased that the CAMC have issued me with an e-voucher (to spend on future site fees) for the deposit we paid for Penrhos in view of our car breakdown in the Outer Hebrides.

David

Posted on 06/09/2023 12:16

Good news!

DavidKlyne replied on 07/09/2023 20:55

Posted on 06/09/2023 12:13 by DSB

Update:  Pleased that the CAMC have issued me with an e-voucher (to spend on future site fees) for the deposit we paid for Penrhos in view of our car breakdown in the Outer Hebrides.

David

Posted on 07/09/2023 20:55

David

It does beg the question as to what the Club see as something that should be refunded? I have just read a review on the Start Bay site and I quote part:-

"Sadly 4 days into the holiday I took poorly. We had to get home quickly as I needed emergency eye surgery for a detached retina so we left the caravan on the pitch. My husband had to travel back down (from Northumberland)a couple of days after my op to collect the caravan. Disappointingly we were charged a £110 early cancellation fee as we didn’t give them 3 days notice only 2. Considering we had paid over £700 for a 2 week stay and hadn’t left by choice we were a bit gutted. We did appeal but to no avail. All in all not one of our better holidays" 

Now, obviously, I am not in a position to confirm the facts as I can only go be what has been written but I think most would agree that a Detached Retina is a pretty serious condition? I also appreciate that it is the balance of a holiday rather than just a deposit but surely the same amount of generosity should be applied to both situations but clearly the Club see it differently. 

David

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DavidKlyne replied on 07/09/2023 22:08

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Nellie

I can't imagine that to be the case as I somehow doubt that beyond Rowena and the media team that anyone knows who the moderators are on this group within the wider Club machine? It seems from what both David and WTG have said that in the case of a breakdown situation they are willing to allow the deposit to be postponed for want of a better phrase to be used at a later stage. So in those situations the Club are not really losing anything as the members who benefit from it will use the voucher against another stay. The key word being voucher, not a refund. The poor lady with the serious eye problem it was a triple whammy as not only did she need a serious operation, she lost half her holiday and the Club appears to have been somewhat harsh in how they have approached it especially as her husband had an exceptionally long drive to recover that caravan. Maybe had Green Flag been involved they could have had the van delivered back home on a low loader. In such situations there is always a lack of fine detail. However the real difference between the two is a refund of site fees would be a loss to the Club. 

Maybe I have some sympathy with the lady involved because I have just had to cancel the best part of our 17 day trip to the West Country because Margaret's hip problem has flared up which makes it difficult for her walk far. ( we are waiting results of a scan) . I just cancelled the CMC site on line and had to phone the the C&CC to cancel their site. I was not expecting anything from either. Worse still was a commercial site where we had paid in advance and that was a lot of money we won't see again!

David

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nelliethehooker replied on 08/09/2023 21:28

Posted on 08/09/2023 21:28

David, sorry to read that your wife is again having problems with her hip and that you have had to cancel your bookings. My comments were tongue in cheek, but it appears to me that the club is not sympathetic where health issues are concerned.

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