Not moving with the times

Del Sandy replied on 21/08/2020 12:37

Posted on 21/08/2020 12:37

This club could be fantastic, if only it was to listen to its members, some reasons below;

1. Very slow website, cannot find a website as slow as this one, even ones you do not have to pay for!

2. Inability to search for fully serviced pitches (perhaps because they do not have many)

3. Being superseded by free forums such as Adults only caravan sites on Facebook

4. Wasting money, why does the club not ask all members if they need a magazine, I would have been happy to have an electronic version, also helping the environment

5. With all my posts asking for reasons for these issues not being addressed and approaching the site directly no action has been taken, or even reasons why they cannot

I have enjoyed the discussions on the site and interestingly my concerns have been covered several times by others. Note the times I go on the website has to be on off peak times due to the slow website.

It is sad that I will not be renewing my membership, as I do not intend to pay for membership where there is no official feedback from the club when issues are raised.

Hopefully I will rejoin when basic issues are sorted out.

Kind Regards

Derek

 

DSB replied on 07/09/2020 18:35

Posted on 31/08/2020 14:35 by SeasideBill

Me too. I’ve had occasion to cancel at the last minute, even got to the stage when I received a letter! However, it wasn’t me being irresponsible, but dealing with an elderly mother with dementia who threw my plans into chaos on a regular basis. I’d have felt happier losing a deposit rather than receiving warning letters with all the ‘naughty’ inferences that conveys. I think paying up front or paying a deposit indicates clear intent as opposed to might, might not stick with this arrangement.

 

 

Posted on 07/09/2020 18:35

I've had to cancel last minute too Bill, for good reason.  I've also changed sites.  In each case I've always managed to do it outside the 72 hours so haven't had a letter.  The letters are an automatic mailing and I can appreciate may upset some in sensitive cases.  Fortunately/ Unfortunately  I have never seen one of the letters.  I just wondered if any tweaking to the wording may help to ease any ill feeling.  I can appreciate the necessity for the automated system in keeping down cost/ time.

On a slightly different subject, we're thinking of possibly taking the caravan out next Sunday for a few days. No idea where. Haven't yet booked - won't do it until at least Wednesday. Don't want to travel more than 100 miles or thereabouts. I'll be wanting a serviced pitch. What are the chances? I'll keep you posted.... 😀

David

MeFeinMcCabe replied on 07/09/2020 22:15

Posted on 07/09/2020 22:15

One of the most frustrating things for me is that a lot of sites have a minimum two day stay which I find really disappointing. Especially when there is plenty of empty pitches available.

I know its about generating income but surely it needs to be about serving members needs as well.

The website is painfully slow and unfortunately I utilise a lot of non club sites due to this as Apps such as SearchForSites are easy to access and give you links to alternative sites.

The issue about feedback is a good one. I dont think it is possible to submit a negative review on a club site or that is the way it appears to me as my last review wasnt published. It did provide both positive and negative comments. 

Surely the only way we can improve as a club is to listen to our members and non members, reflect on the feedback and provide updates. Even if nothing is being done. To ignore members is a shocking indictment of any organisation that they dont value their members. It is really important, especially in the current environment, to recognise members have a choice and unfortunately the OP has decided to take his custom elsewhere which is disappointing but understandable

replied on 07/09/2020 22:24

Posted on 07/09/2020 22:15 by MeFeinMcCabe

One of the most frustrating things for me is that a lot of sites have a minimum two day stay which I find really disappointing. Especially when there is plenty of empty pitches available.

I know its about generating income but surely it needs to be about serving members needs as well.

The website is painfully slow and unfortunately I utilise a lot of non club sites due to this as Apps such as SearchForSites are easy to access and give you links to alternative sites.

The issue about feedback is a good one. I dont think it is possible to submit a negative review on a club site or that is the way it appears to me as my last review wasnt published. It did provide both positive and negative comments. 

Surely the only way we can improve as a club is to listen to our members and non members, reflect on the feedback and provide updates. Even if nothing is being done. To ignore members is a shocking indictment of any organisation that they dont value their members. It is really important, especially in the current environment, to recognise members have a choice and unfortunately the OP has decided to take his custom elsewhere which is disappointing but understandable

Posted on 07/09/2020 22:24

the OP has decided to take his custom elsewhere which is disappointing but understandable

I must say that I could not see a good reason amongst his complaints for taking his custom elsewhere. 

One of the most frustrating things for me is that a lot of sites have a minimum two day stay which I find really disappointing. Especially when there is plenty of empty pitches available.

I know its about generating income but surely it needs to be about serving members needs as well.

None of the CMC's own sites have a minimum stay

Tinwheeler replied on 07/09/2020 22:26

Posted on 07/09/2020 22:26

Club sites do not have minimum stays, MFMC. Some CLs do and the few affiliated sites might but these fall outside of the normal arrangements and rules of CAMC. Main club owned/operated sites do not have such a restriction. That is one area where this club scores over C&CC in its total freedom of booking.

DSB replied on 08/09/2020 20:08

Posted on 07/09/2020 18:35 by DSB

I've had to cancel last minute too Bill, for good reason.  I've also changed sites.  In each case I've always managed to do it outside the 72 hours so haven't had a letter.  The letters are an automatic mailing and I can appreciate may upset some in sensitive cases.  Fortunately/ Unfortunately  I have never seen one of the letters.  I just wondered if any tweaking to the wording may help to ease any ill feeling.  I can appreciate the necessity for the automated system in keeping down cost/ time.

On a slightly different subject, we're thinking of possibly taking the caravan out next Sunday for a few days. No idea where. Haven't yet booked - won't do it until at least Wednesday. Don't want to travel more than 100 miles or thereabouts. I'll be wanting a serviced pitch. What are the chances? I'll keep you posted.... 😀

David

Posted on 08/09/2020 20:08

Tradegar it is..... a touch over the 100 miles.  Wondered about Burrs, but decided to leave that for later......

David

DSB replied on 08/09/2020 20:11

Posted on 07/09/2020 18:35 by DSB

I've had to cancel last minute too Bill, for good reason.  I've also changed sites.  In each case I've always managed to do it outside the 72 hours so haven't had a letter.  The letters are an automatic mailing and I can appreciate may upset some in sensitive cases.  Fortunately/ Unfortunately  I have never seen one of the letters.  I just wondered if any tweaking to the wording may help to ease any ill feeling.  I can appreciate the necessity for the automated system in keeping down cost/ time.

On a slightly different subject, we're thinking of possibly taking the caravan out next Sunday for a few days. No idea where. Haven't yet booked - won't do it until at least Wednesday. Don't want to travel more than 100 miles or thereabouts. I'll be wanting a serviced pitch. What are the chances? I'll keep you posted.... 😀

David

Posted on 08/09/2020 20:11

Apologies folks.... double post.... post Deleted User...

David

DavidKlyne replied on 08/09/2020 22:26

Posted on 07/09/2020 22:15 by MeFeinMcCabe

One of the most frustrating things for me is that a lot of sites have a minimum two day stay which I find really disappointing. Especially when there is plenty of empty pitches available.

I know its about generating income but surely it needs to be about serving members needs as well.

The website is painfully slow and unfortunately I utilise a lot of non club sites due to this as Apps such as SearchForSites are easy to access and give you links to alternative sites.

The issue about feedback is a good one. I dont think it is possible to submit a negative review on a club site or that is the way it appears to me as my last review wasnt published. It did provide both positive and negative comments. 

Surely the only way we can improve as a club is to listen to our members and non members, reflect on the feedback and provide updates. Even if nothing is being done. To ignore members is a shocking indictment of any organisation that they dont value their members. It is really important, especially in the current environment, to recognise members have a choice and unfortunately the OP has decided to take his custom elsewhere which is disappointing but understandable

Posted on 08/09/2020 22:26

I have just checked your profile and as far as I can see you have only submitted one review which was published and is there for all to see, Cobbs Meadow. Even if a review is Deleted User or hidden it still leaves a trace but I can see no evidence of that. Could you give us more details? Reviews are not removed because they are not positive but they are removed if the review does not meet the requirements of the T&C's. It is a requirement for all reviews that the reviewer has actually stayed at the site or CL.

David 

 

Autoes replied on 20/09/2020 20:29

Posted on 20/09/2020 20:29

We have been members for 5 years at first it was good nice clean friendly sites, at the time of the name change it started to become the miserable old fogies club so we started not using club sites as much, we have just come back from a club site & my first job Monday morning is canceling my membership.

I presume the camping & caravanning club call themselves the friendly club because the Caravan & Motorhome club is so miserable.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 20/09/2020 20:42

Posted on 20/09/2020 20:42

You’ve not really said what your issue is, Autoes, or what was wrong with your recent stay which makes for a bit of a strange post.

Why cancel? You won’t get a refund so you might as well see your current year out.

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