Advice please problem with new Buccaneer handbrake

Ariel replied on 13/08/2016 12:57

Posted on 13/08/2016 12:57

We would really appreciate thoughts/experiences/ advice as we are not happy with the response the dealer and manufacturer has provided in response to a warranty claim:  

Having had a bit of a windfall in May this year we became the proud owners of a brand new Buccaneer Cruiser from Glossop Caravans  However the handbrake didn't appear to be holding the van when it was parked on the slight incline ready to move onto our driveway via the mover.  Having used the van three times and therefore having manoeuvred the van back on to the drive three times the lack of handbrake hold has resulted in the jockey being pushed forward which has damaged the jockey wheel. This is now extremely difficult to raise and lower and will not raise fully into the housing. This is our third twin axle van and we have not encountered this problem with any of these. We subsequently returned the van to Glossop who sent photos of the damage to Eldiss under the manufacturers warranty. They have responded stating that this is damage probably caused by over tightening of the clamp or by motor mover over tough ground etc and is not a manufacturing defect. They also advise Glossop to check the clamp and hinge pin as they may also be bent.  My husband is adamant that he has done nothing out if the ordinary and the problem with the handbrake holding is not something he has encountered with the other vans.  We do not overload the van (as was suggested by the Service Centre as a possible reason) there are only two of us and the awning etc travels in the car. We have explained all the above and sent a follow up email to the Service Centre manager at Glosop but they are repeating the manufactureres response. This has spoilt what should have been a wonderful purchase. We therefore welcome your experience/ advice/ thoughts. 

AJHR2017 replied on 21/09/2018 14:53

Posted on 21/09/2018 14:53

We have a 2016 Buccaneer Cruiser we’ve had issues with the jockey wheel for when we bought the caravan at 12 months old. The bracket (pressed steel) and the jockey wheel aren’t upto the job. Our wheel has slipped in use and cannot deal with anything but smooth ground. Even an inch high dropped kerb is an issue. Our jockey wheel completely failed while on holiday in Italy, I write from Florence. The clamp tightening bar sheared off halfway along the threads. After removing the A frame cover I found the clamp was pressed steer welded to chasdis and the pivot pin was bent along with the clamp itself was distorted. The broken bit of adjusting bar was pursuaded out. I replaced both parts were replaced with bolts as a temporary measure. I’m in a quandary we’re to go with this obvious failing in manufacture ! I’m leaning towards a heavy duty ribbed jockey wheel and clamp after I’ve cut the old one off. Any suggestions greatfully received. 

Many thanks 

Andy 

lornalou1 replied on 21/09/2018 22:02

Posted on 21/09/2018 22:02

agree with that AJ. why don't all manufacturers fit the ribbed ones and no need to overtighten.

https://www.towsure.com/deluxe-heavy-duty-trailer-jockey-wheel-48mm

ovengem replied on 25/11/2018 19:57

Posted on 25/11/2018 19:57

Heavy duty one on a e bay £50 fits Ifor William Trailers

NormaJohn replied on 16/01/2019 14:22

Posted on 13/08/2016 12:57 by Ariel

We would really appreciate thoughts/experiences/ advice as we are not happy with the response the dealer and manufacturer has provided in response to a warranty claim:  

Having had a bit of a windfall in May this year we became the proud owners of a brand new Buccaneer Cruiser from Glossop Caravans  However the handbrake didn't appear to be holding the van when it was parked on the slight incline ready to move onto our driveway via the mover.  Having used the van three times and therefore having manoeuvred the van back on to the drive three times the lack of handbrake hold has resulted in the jockey being pushed forward which has damaged the jockey wheel. This is now extremely difficult to raise and lower and will not raise fully into the housing. This is our third twin axle van and we have not encountered this problem with any of these. We subsequently returned the van to Glossop who sent photos of the damage to Eldiss under the manufacturers warranty. They have responded stating that this is damage probably caused by over tightening of the clamp or by motor mover over tough ground etc and is not a manufacturing defect. They also advise Glossop to check the clamp and hinge pin as they may also be bent.  My husband is adamant that he has done nothing out if the ordinary and the problem with the handbrake holding is not something he has encountered with the other vans.  We do not overload the van (as was suggested by the Service Centre as a possible reason) there are only two of us and the awning etc travels in the car. We have explained all the above and sent a follow up email to the Service Centre manager at Glosop but they are repeating the manufactureres response. This has spoilt what should have been a wonderful purchase. We therefore welcome your experience/ advice/ thoughts. 

Posted on 16/01/2019 14:22

I purchased a 2016 Buccaneer Cruiser in May 2017, I had problems with the jockey wheel calapsing,I had 4 replacement wheeis fitted,Ieven resorted to buying the  new  Al-Ko wheel  with the built in nose weight gauge and this  still calapsed.

I took the  caravan to the local weigh-bridge, had the caravan weighed and it was 1802 Kgs(4 Wheel Drive Mover). The nose weight was 220Kgs.

I have had a jockey wheel fitted witha ribbed shaft and clamp as used on industrial trailers,I hope this will resolve the problem.

Phishing replied on 16/01/2019 20:34

Posted on 16/01/2019 20:34

Surely the issue is that the handbrake does not hold. This should be easy enough to prove.

For my twopenneth worth (I have a heavy van) the jockey wheel is in my opinion is just not robust enough. Add a motor mover and they stress beyond an acceptable amount.  

Surfer replied on 18/01/2019 12:10

Posted on 18/01/2019 12:10

Personally I think that the jockey cannot handle the nose weight of 150kg when being pushed along by a motor mover especially if you have AWD motor mover and need to turn.  The ribbed one can handle 400kgs so probably is a better option?

lornalou1 replied on 18/01/2019 15:29

Posted on 18/01/2019 12:10 by Surfer

Personally I think that the jockey cannot handle the nose weight of 150kg when being pushed along by a motor mover especially if you have AWD motor mover and need to turn.  The ribbed one can handle 400kgs so probably is a better option?

Posted on 18/01/2019 15:29

who would tow with a 150kg nose weight. undecided

Surfer replied on 19/01/2019 10:45

Posted on 18/01/2019 15:29 by lornalou1

who would tow with a 150kg nose weight. undecided

Posted on 19/01/2019 10:45

We tow with the nose weight at 140kg and have no issues!  The nose weight of the Buccaneer caravan is 150kg as per the sticker on the side of the caravan.

ScreenNameF330245D54 replied on 04/03/2019 09:16

Posted on 13/08/2016 12:57 by Ariel

We would really appreciate thoughts/experiences/ advice as we are not happy with the response the dealer and manufacturer has provided in response to a warranty claim:  

Having had a bit of a windfall in May this year we became the proud owners of a brand new Buccaneer Cruiser from Glossop Caravans  However the handbrake didn't appear to be holding the van when it was parked on the slight incline ready to move onto our driveway via the mover.  Having used the van three times and therefore having manoeuvred the van back on to the drive three times the lack of handbrake hold has resulted in the jockey being pushed forward which has damaged the jockey wheel. This is now extremely difficult to raise and lower and will not raise fully into the housing. This is our third twin axle van and we have not encountered this problem with any of these. We subsequently returned the van to Glossop who sent photos of the damage to Eldiss under the manufacturers warranty. They have responded stating that this is damage probably caused by over tightening of the clamp or by motor mover over tough ground etc and is not a manufacturing defect. They also advise Glossop to check the clamp and hinge pin as they may also be bent.  My husband is adamant that he has done nothing out if the ordinary and the problem with the handbrake holding is not something he has encountered with the other vans.  We do not overload the van (as was suggested by the Service Centre as a possible reason) there are only two of us and the awning etc travels in the car. We have explained all the above and sent a follow up email to the Service Centre manager at Glosop but they are repeating the manufactureres response. This has spoilt what should have been a wonderful purchase. We therefore welcome your experience/ advice/ thoughts. 

Posted on 04/03/2019 09:16

I bought my cruiser in dec 15

after it’s first service I went to collect it 

on unwinding jockey handle it snapped

guess there said it was my fault 

they did fix in the end

in the last 3 years I have had constant problems with the van slipping down on the jokey wheel

new clamp and pin fitted 

bought it home reversed it left 90 degrees with mover guess what the pin bent again on jockey wheel clamp 

yes back into dealer and requested a more fit for purpose pin to be fitted

also on 2 last services damp found also the floor in van laminate coming away making the flooring bouncy

all I can say I bought a lemon caravan on a Friday in late December 

totaly lost confidence in using van with mover

its has now been in dealers for 4 weeks now getting damp fixed

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