Kerbweight

Lutz replied on 27/12/2020 21:04

Posted on 27/12/2020 21:04

In a since locked thread about outfit matching services reference was made to kerbweight being a variable. I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion regarding other statements made in the topic (I presume that the thread was locked due to the likelihood of it becoming a long drawn out matter) but I would just like to quote the definition of kerbweight and leave it at that. Perhaps things will be a bit clearer that it is not variable:

The Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 define kerbweight as follows:

the weight of a vehicle when it carries—
     (a) in the case of a motor vehicle,
          (i) no person; and
          (ii) a full supply of fuel in its tank, an adequate supply of other liquids incidental to its propulsion and no load other than the loose tools and equipment with which it is normally equipped;
     (b) in the case of a trailer, no person and is otherwise unladen.

flatcoat replied on 08/03/2021 11:20

Posted on 08/03/2021 11:20

This discussion once again highlights the dangers of treating the Club’s weight ratio guidelines as either ‘law’ or some sort of magical safety net without equal emphasis on and due regard to all the other factors which contribute to safe (or dangerous) towing. To assume that 85% is magically safe and 86% is suddenly dangerous is naive. Too little emphasis is placed on nose weight, weight distribution and balance, tyre pressures to name just a few. There is no point in towing at 85% if all the other factors are ignored. Who is taking risks, the person towing a well balanced and legal outfit at 100% or the person towing an outfit at 85% but with total ignorance of nose weight, balance, car tyre pressures etc? Personally i think the Club are negligent in not emphasising ALL the factors involved and hiding behind 35 year old data. 

Lutz replied on 08/03/2021 12:03

Posted on 08/03/2021 12:03

There is nothing wrong with using kerbweight as a basis for calculating the weight ratio, but kerbweight is not documented anywhere so if there is a need or a desire to have a really accurate figure the only way is to establish the kerbweight by putting the vehicle on a weighbridge.

On the other hand, definitions of terms such as kerbweight, mass in service or mass in running order don't differ that much that using one or the other instead would result in a significantly different figure. Whether the calculated weight ratio comes out as 82%, 85% or 88% is not going to make any noticeable difference to the stability of an outfit. I would challenge anybody to be able to tell the difference. It's not all black and white, there is a big grey area in between.

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