Ducato clock settings and truma combi

I would call your local Fiat Professional dealer and they'll have you sorted in a jiffy....

R&K saw this on a MHFun thread...

"Turn the ignition to acc position first, then you will get the correct mode when pushing the button."

couldnt find whether this did the trick or not but worth trying.

R&K, how did you get on?.....

might be useful for others with a similar issue....having an incorrect clock is a right pain.....for some, anyway.

The ECU has been told that you have a Radio / Sat Nav fitted. If this was an original Fiat one then you can change the clock from the Radio. As it is not original then you cannot.

Have a word with your Local Fiat Professional Dealer and get the software altered to tell the ECU you don't have a Radio. It will then display the Time and Date change on the small screen.

I had similar problems when I removed the rubbish Fiat Sat Nav / Radio and fitted a Blaupunkt 945 instead. Took me weeks to sort out what was wrong.

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Q4, I have a Pioneer AVIC fitted to my 2017 Ducato and, as it is linked to my phone (and therefore the outside world....) it knew that the time had changed and so it changed itself to mirror that...

however, the Ducato clock did not change, but I was able to change this  so easily and quickly (as I have previously) that I did it while waiting at a set of traffic lights...

the OPs issue is that he doesn't seem to have the same options as I have on the Ducato menu for clock setting....in that case I would expect this to be a result of having a Fiat upgraded head unit which also controls the clock settings...

however, I reckon your post is the wrong way round compared to my own experience....though I am more than happy to have misunderstood your post....

Ok .. Lets start again ..

We have a Laika 712 Ecovip ( 2016 Euro 5+ ) and it came with a factory fitted with a Uconnect 5 SatNav / Radio. The SatNav used a cut down version of TomTom and maps were out of date to start with. It was also impossible to add a POI file as this had been removed from the stripped down version.

So I decided to fit a Blaupunkt 945 SatNav / Radio. This is an Android based unit that can also send information to a secondary display. The secondary display I used was the one fitted for the reversing camera. So I now have two displays one in the middle and one to the right of the steering wheel. Other applications can be added so I have a speed overlay which gets round the problem of not being able to see the speedo clearly.

When I changed the Head Unit I noticed that you could not set the clock as the Blaupunkt does not send any information to the Fiat CanBus as its not connected to it. I asked my local Fiat Professional Dealer to have a look at it and they updated the Software on the ECU. This just made matters worse as the Milage Indicator started to flash. This means that the ECU has a problem.

After a couple of further visits and some updates from Fiat we had the Time / Date setting on the small screen as an option but the Milage Indicator was still flashing.

I spent an hour in the cab with their tech guy and found out that it was the Steering Wheel Control Unit that I had fitted that was responsible for the error. This was disconnected and everything worked as it should. Except that is the SWC which didn't.

The settings for the ECU were to tell it that it didn't have a SatNav fitted anymore and not to look for it as it was missing. This is one of the functions of the ECU it checks to make sure all the electronic items that are connected to the CanBus are present and working. It also flags up an error if it finds anything that should not be there.

So after many hours I finally had a system that worked but still no SWC. If you fitted the SWC decoder to the CanBus it just started the Milage Flashing. When I had the hour with the Tech guy in the cab he said that the SWC Unit was trying to tell the CanBus that it was an Information System. Some sort of plug and play that the ECU did not understand.

The solution to this was to open the unit and cut the TX line to the CanBus control chip. As the unit could not send any information the ECU did not know it was there. The SWC Unit just acts as a listener and when it hears the SWC Commands it translates them into information that the Blaupunkt SatNav can understand.

Thanks goto Sherwood Van and Truck who put up with my phone calls and requests for assistance and their Tech Guy who went the extra mile just to get it sorted.

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The problem the OP has is the fact that the Date / Time option is missing from the small screen. So the ECU needs reprogramming so that it shows up. This is not something a Dealer can do and he would need to goto a Fiat Professional Dealer to get it sorted as they have access to the latest updates from Fiat and can discuss the problem with the Factory.

Our 2016 model just changes the time automatically like when we came back from Europe last week the clock automatically changed to UK time when we switched on.  We have never changed anything and it changes with the DST in spring and autumn.  Below is the Fiat Handbook details of how to change time.

Setting the clock (Set
time)
This function allows you to set the clock
through two submenus: “Time” and
“Format”.
To carry out the adjustment, proceed as
follows:
- briefly press the MODE button and
two submenus, "Time" and "Format",
will be displayed;
- press the or button to
switch between the two submenus;
- once you have selected the submenu
to be changed, press button MODE
briefly;
- if you enter the "Time" submenu,
pressing the MODE button briefly
makes the "hours" flash on the display;
- press the or button to
adjust;
- briefly press the MODE button: the
"minutes" starts to flash on the display;
- press the or button to
adjust;
– if you enter the "Format" submenu,
pressing the MODE button briefly
makes the display format flash on the
display;
- press the or button to
select "24h" or "12h" mode.
When you have made the adjustment,
briefly press the MODE button to go
back to the submenu screen or hold
the button down to go back to the main
menu screen without storing.
- press the MODE button again to
return to the standard screen or to the
main menu according to where you
are in the menu.
Setting the date (Set
Date)
This function allows updating of the
date (day - month - year).
Proceed as follows to update:
- briefly press the MODE button: the
day starts flashing on the display (dd);
- press the or button to
adjust;
- briefly press the MODE button: the
month starts flashing on the display
(mm);
- press the or button to
adjust;
- briefly press the MODE button: the
year starts flashing on the display
(yyyy);
- press the button or for
setting.
Note The setting will increase or
decrease by one unit each time the
or button is pressed.
Keeping the button pressed causes an
automatic rapid value increase/
decrease. Complete the adjustment
with single presses of the button when
you approach the desired value.
- press the MODE button briefly to
return to the menu screen or hold the
button down to return to the standard
screen without storing.

Thanks for the replies all, if it was as straight forward as following the fiat manual I wouldn't have come on here for advise on trying to sort this issue out, I have been to the dealer we bought the van off now and they have booked it in to have a look along with a couple of other little niggles things to sort. I think along with a couple of other posters there may well be a problem with the way the unit is wired causing an issue with the setup menus, anyway we will see, fingers crossed they can sort it as its annoying I cant access the settings at all, would think this is a common issue when changing the stock Fiat radio/nav unit.

cheers all.

The Dealer will not be able to sort it unless they are also a Fiat Professional Approved Workshop with access to Fiat software. Thats why I suggested you take it to someone who knows what they are doing. The ECU needs reprogramming to give you the options to change the time on the mini display.