Electric Cars and Motorhomes.

rayjsj replied on 29/05/2019 16:13

Posted on 29/05/2019 16:13

Time is coming up for me to think about replacing my Car and in a couple of years, my Motorhome.

But the choices are limited, my cars road tax is £30

can that be bettered ?  it uses very little petrol and has at least 400 miles range.Local charging infrastructure is surprisingly  good for a rural area, but concerned when travelling out of the area.

Motorhome is another story, none on the market at all yet, mine is euro5 what ever that means.

What do others plan to do? for new towcars for instance. Club needs to help and advise us.

brue replied on 29/05/2019 17:18

Posted on 29/05/2019 17:18

As far as I'm aware a full electric car can't be towed and only a Tesla can tow at present (unlike hybrids which can.)

We run a motorhome and an EV but they're not compatible.

DavidKlyne replied on 29/05/2019 17:28

Posted on 29/05/2019 17:28

I plan to do nothingsmile

My motorhome is only a few months old with a the latest Euro 6 engine so can more or less go anywhere. Not sure if OP is wanting to tow his car?  Don't know for sure but aren't most electric cars automatics which might complicate matters if wanting to use an A-Frame? I don't tow a car, yet! As much as an electric car would suit our current use at home they are currently far to expensive to even consider one so if i changed my car it would be for another small petrol one. Perhaps the Government need to take a leaf out of Norway's book and not charge VAT on electric cars to get the market really going? I am hoping the current motorhome will last us as long as we want to continue motorhoming. 

David

Milothedog replied on 29/05/2019 17:46

Posted on 29/05/2019 17:18 by brue

As far as I'm aware a full electric car can't be towed and only a Tesla can tow at present (unlike hybrids which can.)

We run a motorhome and an EV but they're not compatible.

Posted on 29/05/2019 17:46

The Milk & More electric floats from the milk depot just up the road from me get towed back home on a ridged bar quite often using a Diesel Transit van based floatsmile

brue replied on 29/05/2019 18:11

Posted on 29/05/2019 18:11

If a friend of ours was still alive who used to organise batteries from milk floats to lighthouses I could an answer that one Milo, sadly I can't. wink 

Our Milk and More delivery comes on a big lorry at 2am, so it's quite noisy but we're in a rural area beyond the range of the average milk float.

I'm wondering if the OP means a hybrid?

 

rayjsj replied on 29/05/2019 23:13

Posted on 29/05/2019 18:11 by brue

If a friend of ours was still alive who used to organise batteries from milk floats to lighthouses I could an answer that one Milo, sadly I can't. wink 

Our Milk and More delivery comes on a big lorry at 2am, so it's quite noisy but we're in a rural area beyond the range of the average milk float.

I'm wondering if the OP means a hybrid?

 

Posted on 29/05/2019 23:13

Either really, looking at total costs incl running costs....just how long do EV batteries last ?

are there any 2nd hand EVs on the market yet ? are they a viable proposition  2nd hand.

No will not be towing the car, already did that for a couple of years on an A frame. Now have a euro 5 PVC.

From what I have seen my £30 a year roadtax is about as good as it gets. Hardly an incentive to get an EV. Sorry environmentalists but cost is all important to me.

All that should be needed to tow an EV on its wheels is a means of disengaging the electric motors from the wheels.

 

 

peedee replied on 30/05/2019 08:04

Posted on 30/05/2019 08:04

All that should be needed to tow an EV on its wheels is a means of disengaging the electric motors from the wheels.

 

That is what I have also been told by one A Frame supplier. The problem is such a system has to be foolproof. Most if not all electric vehicles available today employ some form of regenerative charging when braking or free wheeling. If the charging system is not disengaged there is a risk of the batteries exploding.

I tow a petrol Suzuki Celerio, semi automatic on an A Frame. As well as being a very light four door vehicle, the road tax is zero rated.

peedee

brue replied on 30/05/2019 08:31

Posted on 29/05/2019 23:13 by rayjsj

Either really, looking at total costs incl running costs....just how long do EV batteries last ?

are there any 2nd hand EVs on the market yet ? are they a viable proposition  2nd hand.

No will not be towing the car, already did that for a couple of years on an A frame. Now have a euro 5 PVC.

From what I have seen my £30 a year roadtax is about as good as it gets. Hardly an incentive to get an EV. Sorry environmentalists but cost is all important to me.

All that should be needed to tow an EV on its wheels is a means of disengaging the electric motors from the wheels.

 

 

Posted on 30/05/2019 08:31

Several questions, yes there are secondhand EVs on the market. Our EV batteries are guaranteed for 8 years. A full EV is quite heavy, would that effect towing if it was on a trailer? There are reasons, pointed out by Peedee due to the systems with EVs that could present problems if towed, including brakes locking etc if the battery runs out. It's not something I can give all the details about but we've looked at it and that's the present thinking.

Running costs for a full EV are minimal, £3 plus for an overnight charge and for ours an occasional 8 pints of fuel for the range extender which regenerates the battery on longer journeys. We can travel any distance on this system but unfortunately the REX system has been abandoned by the car maker.

Looks like you mean you've got a PVC and are thinking about an EV as a second vehicle? We've got a small motorhome and run an EV as our car. We have got used to the concept of EVs and we're happy with ours but it's not for everyone at present. 

However a small hybrid is a good way to get into EVs, these are good for short journeys and this might be worth considering?

 

 

 

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