Diesel & petrol alternatives? Your thoughts please

KellyHenderson replied on 14/09/2017 14:26

Posted on 14/09/2017 14:26

Good Afternoon,

Hopefully you have now received your September Club Magazine and read the Ask Your Club article (see attached photo) regarding the future of caravanning post 2040.

Have you already changed your vehicle from diesel to petrol?

Is anyone already towing with a hybrid? Maybe a Tesla Model X?

Has the news affected your plans for your next towcar?

It will also be interesting to see how motorhomes evolve into hybrids and/or electric models, which alternative to diesel would you prefer to buy; Hybrid or electric?

 Are you concerned about so few alternatives to diesel at the moment? Would you choose petrol instead if they were more widely available? There is now a VW T6 camper with a petrol engine available. 

Has this news made you think about switching to a car and caravan? Equally would caravanners consider trading in their car and caravan to purchase a hybrid or electric motorhome?

From the questions above, we would love to have your feedback.

One thing is for sure, there will be some interesting times ahead.

Oscarmax replied on 16/04/2021 18:53

Posted on 16/04/2021 18:53

You can clean up your PHEV, run it down to empty, let the battery cool down for an hour or so, programme the heater to come on high for 30 minutes, the heater will probably not make the full 30 minutes.

Allow the battery to rest and recharge it, apparently the expert say the BMU is buggy as hell, using this method regularly reset the BMU, in a while you will notice an increase in range.

allanandjean replied on 17/04/2021 09:03

Posted on 17/04/2021 09:03

"No you won't find many EVs with good towing capabilities. Does anyone need to tow, towing wastes fuel, burning up precious energy.

There's no moral right or wrong but we have got a future problem with some types of energy running out. It needs to be conserved somehow."

Hi Brue, I can only speak for myself but, having a caravan as my choice of camping accommodation, yes, I need to tow!

As for the moral angle, I am not sure how owning a MH is any different as they are not going to win any fuel economy prices.

You have a EV, and it seem to work for you, but there are millions of people for who a pure EV just will not work, now or in the foreseeable future and whilst there will undoubtedly be development leading, one hopes, to increased range and lower purchase prices, it seems to me we are heading for a typical fudge come the cut off date.

 

Oscarmax replied on 17/04/2021 13:38

Posted on 17/04/2021 13:38

Our is the 2020 2.4 Outlander PHEV the worst we recorded 26.5 and the best to date 28.5 mpg that is over 180 miles in warm weather, and measured brim to brim, vehicles display showed 29 + mpg.

On shorter towing 70+ miles we have seen just over 32 mpg, so I would imagine the longer the journey the higher the fuel consumption.

brue replied on 17/04/2021 13:55

Posted on 17/04/2021 09:03 by allanandjean

"No you won't find many EVs with good towing capabilities. Does anyone need to tow, towing wastes fuel, burning up precious energy.

There's no moral right or wrong but we have got a future problem with some types of energy running out. It needs to be conserved somehow."

Hi Brue, I can only speak for myself but, having a caravan as my choice of camping accommodation, yes, I need to tow!

As for the moral angle, I am not sure how owning a MH is any different as they are not going to win any fuel economy prices.

You have a EV, and it seem to work for you, but there are millions of people for who a pure EV just will not work, now or in the foreseeable future and whilst there will undoubtedly be development leading, one hopes, to increased range and lower purchase prices, it seems to me we are heading for a typical fudge come the cut off date.

 

Posted on 17/04/2021 13:55

You might be surprised by the better economy of a motorhome but yes we're all in it together at present and I'm not objecting to anyone's choice of van or vehicle. Maybe we're all dinosaurs?! wink

eribaMotters replied on 17/04/2021 14:29

Posted on 17/04/2021 14:29

I think we are all dinosaurs. We are doing what we want to and not what we need to. I'd be surprised to see a MH returning good mpg figures, as I am the figures above for the Mitsubishi mpg. I say that having spoke to an owner a couple of years ago who was seeing 18/20mpg. 

Surely at present a good modern diesel or petrol is still the way forward if you have to own one vehicle. I have a 1.5 petrol that returns 48/50mpg in everyday driving and up to 40mpg towing. Admittedly I have a low profile van but I'm aware Yeti owners with the 2L diesel return similar figures solo and with a "normal" van.

 

Colin

mickysf replied on 18/04/2021 08:56

Posted on 18/04/2021 08:56

Some 'changes' to our pastime are happening right before our very eyes but some are not seeing these as they do not fit that 'old' model we have so enjoyed. Look back a few years and you will see the start of those touring pitches morphing into a different beast. Along come cabins, pods, wigwams, yurts, Safari tents, Airstreams and the like. With such accommodation all you need is a 'modest' EV and a charging point on the pitch. The future is thus, the future is the alternative. Owning your own ELV may be the privilege of the very few. 

replied on 18/04/2021 09:17

Posted on 17/04/2021 14:29 by eribaMotters

I think we are all dinosaurs. We are doing what we want to and not what we need to. I'd be surprised to see a MH returning good mpg figures, as I am the figures above for the Mitsubishi mpg. I say that having spoke to an owner a couple of years ago who was seeing 18/20mpg. 

Surely at present a good modern diesel or petrol is still the way forward if you have to own one vehicle. I have a 1.5 petrol that returns 48/50mpg in everyday driving and up to 40mpg towing. Admittedly I have a low profile van but I'm aware Yeti owners with the 2L diesel return similar figures solo and with a "normal" van.

 

Colin

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