PHEV/EV Charging

Oscarmax replied on 15/04/2022 08:23

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:23

Noticed this yesterday, from the 5th April 2022 charging up a PHEV has increased from £2.00 to £9.00, for us that work out at 90 pence a kWh ?

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/whats-on/caravan-club-news/vehicle-charging-on-uk-club-campsites/

EmilysDad replied on 18/04/2022 13:54

Posted on 17/04/2022 17:41 by Tinwheeler

But you might have a problem getting fuel!

Posted on 18/04/2022 13:54

considering the amount of commercial vans & HGVs there are on the road, I would think it'll be a long time before there's a shortage of fuel. 

allanandjean replied on 18/04/2022 14:33

Posted on 18/04/2022 14:33

"Unless there is monumental advances in the charging times and battery ranges (distances) for electric vehicles then i think caravanning as we know it is doomed."

Well, until that happens you could just.........

"Stick to petrol and diesel you won't have a problem with charging."....................

as someone has suggested!

There are many reasons why EVs are limited for towing but its likely that the charging times and battery range will as said improve however, I think the biggest issue will be the ability to access charge points when towing, never mind the issues for people who cannot charge 'at home'.

Its possible that, depending on advances, a suitable EV tow car will be available when I will likely next change, but what the sums will look like compared to an ICE I dont know.

Tinwheeler replied on 18/04/2022 14:48

Posted on 18/04/2022 13:54 by EmilysDad

considering the amount of commercial vans & HGVs there are on the road, I would think it'll be a long time before there's a shortage of fuel. 

Posted on 18/04/2022 14:48

Like last week?

brue replied on 18/04/2022 15:42

Posted on 18/04/2022 15:42

I think the original aims regarding C02 emitting ice engines was to encourage domestic owners towards electric vehicles, leaving the commercial side to develop alternatives over a longer period. C02 emissions make up the majority of damaging greenhouse gases.

The aim was also to conserve UK fossil fuel stocks and not allow reliance on other countries to supply them....have to say we've done better than some countries on that one as they've now learnt to their cost and probably ours in the long run with rising prices for everything. frown

Obviously CAMC wants to play their part in reducing greenhouse gases by applying high charge rates for electric vehicles on sites whilst encouraging polluting vehicles....?!! Or have I misread something on here? wink undecided

hitchglitch replied on 18/04/2022 16:10

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:34 by Tinwheeler

Definitely, although with using the dedicated cable there shouldn’t be an overheating problem and car manufacturers even tell you how long it will take to charge using the various inputs. 19+ hours on a domestic 13amp connection rings a bell.  I understand it’s possible to damage EV batteries by using a 240v 'trickle' charge on a regular basis and such use should be reserved for emergency charging only.

Posted on 18/04/2022 16:10

A bit of misinformation here. The lower charge rate of a so-called “granny charger” which gives 10amps maximum is far better than super chargers.

The plug on the granny charger has a thermistor to prevent overheating of the cable but, in general, extensive use of granny chargers is discouraged as a continuous current of 10 amps on an old domestic installation will expose any weaknesses in the wiring system, sockets etc.

Tinwheeler replied on 18/04/2022 16:27

Posted on 18/04/2022 16:10 by hitchglitch

A bit of misinformation here. The lower charge rate of a so-called “granny charger” which gives 10amps maximum is far better than super chargers.

The plug on the granny charger has a thermistor to prevent overheating of the cable but, in general, extensive use of granny chargers is discouraged as a continuous current of 10 amps on an old domestic installation will expose any weaknesses in the wiring system, sockets etc.

Posted on 18/04/2022 16:27

Either way it bears out manufacturers' recommendations that charging with the ‘granny charger' should be for emergency use rather than a regular occurrence.

What cannot be allowed for is the protected cable being connected to an extension lead of too small a CSA to carry the current which could cause problems.

Oscarmax replied on 18/04/2022 17:38

Posted on 18/04/2022 15:42 by brue

I think the original aims regarding C02 emitting ice engines was to encourage domestic owners towards electric vehicles, leaving the commercial side to develop alternatives over a longer period. C02 emissions make up the majority of damaging greenhouse gases.

The aim was also to conserve UK fossil fuel stocks and not allow reliance on other countries to supply them....have to say we've done better than some countries on that one as they've now learnt to their cost and probably ours in the long run with rising prices for everything. frown

Obviously CAMC wants to play their part in reducing greenhouse gases by applying high charge rates for electric vehicles on sites whilst encouraging polluting vehicles....?!! Or have I misread something on here? wink undecided

Posted on 18/04/2022 17:38

I have to admit I was a little surprised with the CMC, I thought they were in tune with the green technology, I have phoned the site apparently they are having a new EV charging point installed in the very near future.

However, I have carried out some research in the area we are going one EV charging point rates £1.00 per hour for a 7kWh charger to 40 pence a kWh for a 50 kW charger.

Plus the New Forest 7 kWh EV chargers 33 pence kWh, so not all doom a gloom, we will still be able to charge up our PHEV and save on our running costs.

JVB66 replied on 18/04/2022 18:34

Posted on 18/04/2022 18:21 by EmilysDad

there's no fuel shortage here 

Posted on 18/04/2022 18:34

Diesel was difficult to find in Great Yarmouth  last week several supermarkets and fuel stations had none undecided

Did get our spring anti covid booster while there via a walk in vaccination centrecool

Tinwheeler replied on 18/04/2022 18:41

Posted on 18/04/2022 18:21 by EmilysDad

there's no fuel shortage here 

Posted on 18/04/2022 18:41

Nor anything very noticeable here but the area covered by the blockaded Midlands oil depot suffered. It’s a long time since I’ve experienced fuel rationing and closed forecourts.

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