PHEV/EV Charging

Oscarmax replied on 15/04/2022 08:23

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:23

Noticed this yesterday, from the 5th April 2022 charging up a PHEV has increased from £2.00 to £9.00, for us that work out at 90 pence a kWh ?

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/whats-on/caravan-club-news/vehicle-charging-on-uk-club-campsites/

peedee replied on 15/04/2022 08:28

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:28

Yes, I noticed it flagged up on another forum but I didn't take too much notice as I do not own an electric vehicle. I hadn't realised it represents a £2 increase. I guess owners of Hybrids and EVs will welcome metering?

peedee

GTrimmer replied on 15/04/2022 16:30

Posted on 15/04/2022 16:30

Seen elsewhere on a thread about the EV charging price increase .

"Can we lobby the CMC to provide diesel and petrol pumps on sites???

I'd quite happily pay £9 for a tank, half a tank, quarter of a tank of fuel......"

 

I whole heartedly agree !   tongue-out

EmilysDad replied on 15/04/2022 22:05

Posted on 15/04/2022 16:30 by GTrimmer

Seen elsewhere on a thread about the EV charging price increase .

"Can we lobby the CMC to provide diesel and petrol pumps on sites???

I'd quite happily pay £9 for a tank, half a tank, quarter of a tank of fuel......"

 

I whole heartedly agree !   tongue-out

Posted on 15/04/2022 22:05

I'd be pleased if it 'only' cost me £90 for a full tank .... let alone £9 🙄 

Tinwheeler replied on 16/04/2022 16:52

Posted on 16/04/2022 16:52

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/whats-on/caravan-club-news/vehicle-charging-on-uk-club-campsites/

With petrol/diesel costing nigh on £10 per gallon, I don’t think the PHEV is exactly expensive but there’s a possible imbalance in place with the full EV needing to charge for far longer so, on the face of it, getting more for the money. However, it may be that it’s assumed people will charge overnight and the full EV in that case probably wouldn’t take much more than the PHEV given the length of time it takes to fully charge from an ordinary 240v supply. 

brue replied on 16/04/2022 18:20

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:20

We would be wary of cables heating up if charging is left unsupervised overnight. Safer to charge off site with a full EV and much too expensive generally.

Tinwheeler replied on 16/04/2022 18:34

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:20 by brue

We would be wary of cables heating up if charging is left unsupervised overnight. Safer to charge off site with a full EV and much too expensive generally.

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:34

Definitely, although with using the dedicated cable there shouldn’t be an overheating problem and car manufacturers even tell you how long it will take to charge using the various inputs. 19+ hours on a domestic 13amp connection rings a bell.  I understand it’s possible to damage EV batteries by using a 240v 'trickle' charge on a regular basis and such use should be reserved for emergency charging only.

Oscarmax replied on 16/04/2022 18:43

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:43

Shame really it was very convenient to  charge up on site, I was expecting an increase to £3 - £4, just a little shocked at £9.00.

We will just charge up our PHEV off site at the market rate of 35 - 40 pence kWh (£3.50 - £4.00)

Tinwheeler replied on 16/04/2022 18:52

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:43 by Oscarmax

Shame really it was very convenient to  charge up on site, I was expecting an increase to £3 - £4, just a little shocked at £9.00.

We will just charge up our PHEV off site at the market rate of 35 - 40 pence kWh (£3.50 - £4.00)

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:52

That’s the best way really. You get a quicker charge and don’t have to reduce your use in the caravan to compensate.

brue replied on 16/04/2022 19:07

Posted on 16/04/2022 18:34 by Tinwheeler

Definitely, although with using the dedicated cable there shouldn’t be an overheating problem and car manufacturers even tell you how long it will take to charge using the various inputs. 19+ hours on a domestic 13amp connection rings a bell.  I understand it’s possible to damage EV batteries by using a 240v 'trickle' charge on a regular basis and such use should be reserved for emergency charging only.

Posted on 16/04/2022 19:07

We've actually experienced one of our cables heating up when we plugged in at our daughter's house, it wasn't for long either, yes there are other problems which could arise. I don't think CAMC understands EVs.

As I said before use the C&CC if you need to as it's all inclusive which negates the need to pay for electricity you've already paid for whilst you reduce the supply to your van. No-one can use more than 16amps. (I haven't checked to see if this approach has changed.)

And no, we won't be taking our EV to a CAMC site but some don't have a choice.

A couple of days ago I read a review on here saying the electrics at Lower Wensleydale weren't too good so the reviewer stated they ran their fridge on gas but the fan heater in the awning was ok!!

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