Towing capacities

Tuppers49 replied on 13/11/2018 22:08

Posted on 13/11/2018 22:08

Hello all, we're new to both the club and caravanning and are confused with towing recommendations to what's safe and legal.

We're in the market for a van and need a 6 berth so options are fairly limited due to our tow car, a VW Touran.  It's figures are...

Kerb Weight 1615kg, so the recommended 85% rule gives a MTPLM of 1372kg, however the cars manual says a max trailer weight of 1800kg for 12% gradients and the cars VIN plate confirms this as 1825kg which would be its legal limit.  This is 113% of the kerb weight.

I guess my question is how many owners tow close to the 100% kerb weight or even over it?  Does a twin axle tow better at 100% than a single axle at 90%?

Thanks in advance

 

commeyras replied on 11/02/2019 19:45

Posted on 11/02/2019 19:45

So does mine Milo.  Only ever had to do one emergency stop when towing: all I can say I stopped VERY quickly!!!  Stick to the guidelines and you will have no problems.  Why raise a problem that should not exist - unless someone knows betterwink.

Hallsontour replied on 12/02/2019 20:29

Posted on 15/11/2018 21:39 by Vulcan

A company car allowance is put simply, cash paid to the employee instead of a company car, ie. a pay rise and as such it is up to you which vehicle you spend it on. 

Posted on 12/02/2019 20:29

Not in all cases Vulcan. My last company paid me a car allowance but also supplied a list of 'rules' that my car had to adhere to in order for me to keep claiming my allowance....and be paid expenses for.

Back to the original topic I personally wouldn't like to tow anywhere near the 100% mark. It'll probably be OK 99% of the time but it's that 1% where the extra weight of the car can make all the difference. Some might say that they tow X with Y and it's 110% of tow weight and they have no worries as they take the tins out the top cupboard but it's basic physics. Of course lots of other factors come into play, and I do understand your predicament, but when the cookie crumbles the extra stability of the car can make the difference.

Go for the heaviest car you can with the lightest caravan, that's my advice for what it's worth.

Wildwood replied on 14/02/2019 10:59

Posted on 14/02/2019 10:59

The choice of vehicle with a company car depends on the company policy on this. At one time we were stuck with being given a date to be in and a new car would turn up but you had no choice as to what it was. The company moved to a single supplier and the choice was more or less any thing you wanted from Vauxhall. The limitation was workable but does show it is not always straightforward.

lornalou1 replied on 14/02/2019 11:53

Posted on 14/02/2019 10:59 by Wildwood

The choice of vehicle with a company car depends on the company policy on this. At one time we were stuck with being given a date to be in and a new car would turn up but you had no choice as to what it was. The company moved to a single supplier and the choice was more or less any thing you wanted from Vauxhall. The limitation was workable but does show it is not always straightforward.

Posted on 14/02/2019 11:53

that's a bit of a contradiction Wildwood as you state " a new car would turn up but you had no choice as to what it was"  then state " any thing you wanted from Vauxhall "  so you did have a choice of any Vauxhall.

Tinwheeler replied on 14/02/2019 16:14

Posted on 14/02/2019 11:53 by lornalou1

that's a bit of a contradiction Wildwood as you state " a new car would turn up but you had no choice as to what it was"  then state " any thing you wanted from Vauxhall "  so you did have a choice of any Vauxhall.

Posted on 14/02/2019 16:14

WW explained that "The company moved to a single supplier…". This means things changed from the first arrangement to the one it moved to. Hence the two different scenarios.👍🏻

replied on 14/02/2019 16:28

Posted on 11/02/2019 19:45 by commeyras

So does mine Milo.  Only ever had to do one emergency stop when towing: all I can say I stopped VERY quickly!!!  Stick to the guidelines and you will have no problems.  Why raise a problem that should not exist - unless someone knows betterwink.

Posted on 14/02/2019 16:28

It is not so much the braking that is the problem but the situation when braking alone is not enough and a sharp evasive manoeuvre at speed is needed to avoid a smash.

replied on 15/02/2019 10:37

Posted on 15/02/2019 10:04 by Milothedog

So how does that work on an artic then, the trailer, when loaded, weighs more than the unit does.  

Posted on 15/02/2019 10:37

Have you never seen a trailer jacknifed after the tractor unit has lost grip and skidded? 

JVB66 replied on 15/02/2019 10:41

Posted on 15/02/2019 10:04 by Milothedog

So how does that work on an artic then, the trailer, when loaded, weighs more than the unit does.  

Posted on 15/02/2019 10:41

I think that is why when the tractor unit loses it it is normally the trailer that then jack knifes undecided

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