Crowded out

twocals replied on 14/08/2019 19:19

Posted on 14/08/2019 19:19

We are currently on a cl in Dorset, 5 van rule. Ha Ha. Currently 8 vans and by tomorrow could be twelve. Apparantly a rotary club meet. How wrong is this ,everybody is so close, we go home tomorrow yippee. 

JVB66 replied on 01/09/2019 20:48

Posted on 15/08/2019 20:24 by Vulcan

I think you know as well as I do that this is not about discretion or genuine emergencies, It is about serial offenders who show no respect to their customers or the regulations they signed up for in order to avoid getting planning consent.

Posted on 01/09/2019 20:48

I was answering wildmere post ,not generalising as you  should well knowundecided

wildemere replied on 01/09/2019 20:53

Posted on 01/09/2019 20:53

I read all of the above with great interest. Last Friday we had a visitor who picked up his grandchildren and took them out for the day as a holiday treat, The car was badly damaged in an accident, family were shaken but not badly hurt, but car was written off, Insurance supplied a small car as a replacement, no tow bar. They should have been on they way home with van last Saturday. but it will now be picked up on Monday. This could have if we had new arrivals over the weekend we could have ended up with more than 5 vans on site. Should I push the overstay van out on the road, or do I turn away a new arrival.?  

JayOutdoors replied on 01/09/2019 21:00

Posted on 01/09/2019 21:00

We also do not like cramped situations & what I feel is a concern is if having 6 plus outfits instead of 5 invalidates a CL’s public liability insurance or is it just that they are not adhering to their 5van certificate.  Accepting emergencies occur now and again and have to be dealt with sympathetically is one thing but allowing more than 5 outfits appears to be happening on some CL’s more often than an emergency basis.  See Firs Cottage CL (page6) as well the original post by twocals & other posts.  Not a good thing IMHO.

Longtimecaravanner replied on 01/09/2019 21:04

Posted on 01/09/2019 20:53 by wildemere

I read all of the above with great interest. Last Friday we had a visitor who picked up his grandchildren and took them out for the day as a holiday treat, The car was badly damaged in an accident, family were shaken but not badly hurt, but car was written off, Insurance supplied a small car as a replacement, no tow bar. They should have been on they way home with van last Saturday. but it will now be picked up on Monday. This could have if we had new arrivals over the weekend we could have ended up with more than 5 vans on site. Should I push the overstay van out on the road, or do I turn away a new arrival.?  

Posted on 01/09/2019 21:04

As Vulcan said no one would complain about a genuine emergency, it is the regular owners fitting in a couple of extra bookings that this thread is about. I use Cls purely for the benefits of only being with 4 other caravans and that is what I am paying for as far as I am concerned. If I find that is not the case while I am on the site, excepting emergencies. then the site owner is breaking his contract with me and I am not a happy bunny.

JayOutdoors replied on 01/09/2019 21:05

Posted on 01/09/2019 18:45 by mummypig1

Interesting discussion.

I run a recently opened CL, Cherry Cottage also in Dorset,  I can assure you that you will not find more than 5 vans on my CL at any time. 

The law is clear regarding the issue of the exemption certificate, the CAMC guidance is clear and members expectations are clear.  

5 VANS MAX  

 

 

Posted on 01/09/2019 21:05

Agree - Clear & concise, well said - Good Luck with your CL.

replied on 01/09/2019 21:46

Posted on 01/09/2019 21:04 by Longtimecaravanner

As Vulcan said no one would complain about a genuine emergency, it is the regular owners fitting in a couple of extra bookings that this thread is about. I use Cls purely for the benefits of only being with 4 other caravans and that is what I am paying for as far as I am concerned. If I find that is not the case while I am on the site, excepting emergencies. then the site owner is breaking his contract with me and I am not a happy bunny.

Posted on 01/09/2019 21:46

As Vulcan said no one would complain about a genuine emergency

Totally agree. Many moons I arrived at a CC site in a torrential downpour (think 'the one in to year storm'). I was turned away with my wife and two daughters with such rain that driving was only possible in for short periods due to limited visibility. The warden had phoned a CL a mile away who was full but put me and two motorhomes up on his stable yard free of charge.

HelenandTrevor replied on 01/09/2019 21:59

Posted on 01/09/2019 13:00 by brue

More vans, more utilities used, higher costs surely? Metering would be the better option. Let the user pay.

Posted on 01/09/2019 21:59

The last CL we used a couple of weeks ago,  the electricity was metered, cost worked out at just over £1 per day. With the cost of the pitch at £10 it made it the cheapest site we have used this year.

HelenandTrevor replied on 01/09/2019 22:14

Posted on 01/09/2019 22:14

 After having has confirmation from the club regarding the licence rules regarding a CL it is disappointing to learn that some owners are deliberately flouting the rules. I like many others book a CL because I only want a max of 4 neighbours.  I can understand allowing an extra van on-site in an emergency but will avoid booking a  CL that has deliberately overbooked.

peedee replied on 02/09/2019 08:47

Posted on 01/09/2019 13:00 by brue

More vans, more utilities used, higher costs surely? Metering would be the better option. Let the user pay.

Posted on 02/09/2019 08:47

Couldn't agree more. I am currently on a metered pitch and have only been using my gas for cooking. My Alde heating has been on 1Kw since I arrived 4 days ago and I have been using an average of 10 Kw per day which amounts to just over £1 per day. If sites want better control over cost which should help keep pitch fees down metering is the way to go.

On the subject of reviewing the 1960 act to increase CL pitches, with the current state of the country I can hardly see parliament finding time to consult, debate and amend the act. It could also be an open invitation to scrap it altogether.

peedee

replied on 02/09/2019 08:53

Posted on 02/09/2019 08:53

You might welcome metered supply. Many, including myself, wouldn't 

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