OS map Grid Refs gone!!

willbee replied on 10/01/2019 15:05

Posted on 10/01/2019 15:05

Is there a good reason why the new Club Sites Directory is not showing OS Grid Refs?

Surely I can't be the only member who still likes to see exactly where I will be towing to?

Google Maps sometimes does not show the CL / field clearly. A pinpoint location with the OS map sorts that out. Or rather, it did.

A black mark for the CL dept at the Club. Could do better.

harryb replied on 10/01/2019 19:48

Posted on 10/01/2019 16:45 by SteveL

It is on the web site, as you say Richard12. Willbee was commenting on the sites directory.

It does seem a strange omission, it would have been simple enough to include it as well. It would be interesting to know the CC's thinking behind the decision, given they have kept it on the web site.

However, if you are looking for the site on digital OS mapping, you can normally use Lat and Long or OS coordinates. Alternatively if using paper maps, conversion Apps are available and quick to use.

Posted on 10/01/2019 19:48

Omissions of site price lists come to mind again. Another odd decision in my mind. 

Remember the OP was talking about the sites directory and not web sites. There are one or two omissions in this new directory and also some inclusions which are surplus to requirements. 

nelliethehooker replied on 10/01/2019 20:49

Posted on 10/01/2019 20:49

I wrote to the club at the start of January asking WHY? but other than an acknowledgement, have heard nothing!!

hja, I've reported your post, just to see if that produces an explanation to you. ~Should you receive one I would like to hear what they had to say.....but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a proper response.

EDIT.

hja, I see that there's an "explanation" to the question why have the ordnance survey map references been removed from the sites directory and handbook in the "Have a question" ?blob which appears when one signs in. Doesn't help though!!

nelliethehooker replied on 10/01/2019 21:47

Posted on 10/01/2019 21:13 by Navigateur

Must be more than one "sign-in" system.  Who'se surprised!

What does the blob tell us?

 

 

Posted on 10/01/2019 21:47

How about this...

Ordnance Survey map references

The OS map references have been removed from both CLs and Club Sites in the 2019/2020 Sites Directory and Handbook. 

We have a very limited amount of space so we have to make a judgement call on what we can include. This year we’ve added lots more information about the local area and local amenities, and as usage of Sat Navs (which use Longitude and Latitude) is so much more common these days we made the decision to remove the OS map references. This information will remain available online where we have no restrictions on the amount of information we are able to show, but will no longer be used in the handbook as we felt there were other pieces of information that are more relevant to a larger number of our members.

Not a lot of use when one isn't on wifi!! No consideration for those that don't want or can't get wifi!!

replied on 11/01/2019 08:12

Posted on 10/01/2019 21:47 by nelliethehooker

How about this...

Ordnance Survey map references

The OS map references have been removed from both CLs and Club Sites in the 2019/2020 Sites Directory and Handbook. 

We have a very limited amount of space so we have to make a judgement call on what we can include. This year we’ve added lots more information about the local area and local amenities, and as usage of Sat Navs (which use Longitude and Latitude) is so much more common these days we made the decision to remove the OS map references. This information will remain available online where we have no restrictions on the amount of information we are able to show, but will no longer be used in the handbook as we felt there were other pieces of information that are more relevant to a larger number of our members.

Not a lot of use when one isn't on wifi!! No consideration for those that don't want or can't get wifi!!

Posted on 11/01/2019 08:12

I have not looked at present book but, looking at the previous one, I would have thought that removing the pricing section gave plenty of space. The images shown are pretty meaningless in the previous handbook also

SteveL replied on 11/01/2019 08:16

Posted on 11/01/2019 07:55 by cyberyacht

The absence of any definitive pinpoint location data from the handbook is, like the absence of pricing, a retrograde step.

Posted on 11/01/2019 08:16

Not fair to say any CY, there are Lat and Long, those are fairly definitive and pin point. For anyone with a smartphone there is the option of using a free conversion App to get the OS variety. This doesn't require the internet to do this and takes probably 30 seconds.

However, I agree the OS should still be in the handbook. The arguement over space is fairly lame, as they take up so little.

 

ocsid replied on 11/01/2019 08:30

Posted on 11/01/2019 08:30

Whilst savvy enough to know how to work around the omission of OS map references, I do feel it is from a CL users point of view, indeed these being the only likely members who would be looking at this section of the handbook, a poorly considered decision.

But sadly, I feel the whole 5 van network, its users and its owners are considered by "the club" to be of little if any value to the business.

Would the inclusion of these add more than a page or two to the 704, not IMO a big burden.

Navigateur replied on 11/01/2019 10:31

Posted on 11/01/2019 10:31

Thanks for the Quote!

Omiting the unverified testimonials (which are probably the most unsincere form of of marketing speak) would give a huge space for useful information. By that I do not mean more of the "Make the most of your stay" details, which for sites where I know the area I would class much of the content as irrelevant, and that information of real use to potential visitors is deliberately omitted.

Just had the thought that the OS NGR (as previously used) consists of eight characters, while the phrase "Make the most of your stay" consists of 25 characters. Whatever else would potential visitors be making the most of?

I stick by my earlier comments. All part of dumbing down and avoiding the effort of providing meaningful content.

JohnM20 replied on 11/01/2019 11:58

Posted on 11/01/2019 11:58

How much time, effort and cost was expended in removing the grid references from every entry in the handbook? The cost alone would have more than paid for a couple of extra pages if they were necessary.

Another very poor decision made by the club.

Just as a rather cynical thought, perhaps those compiling the handbook don't understand grid references and their immense value to many members.

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