Servicing calls at CLs for Motorcaravans

There were no rallies last year and and many normally make use of these, where there are basic facilities at a very reasonable price. This must have put pressure on places to stay. Motorhome clubs, private organisations and both the CAMC and C&CC organise  a lot of these all year round. There's usually quite a bit of choice out there.  

Seems like Wild camping can mean many things to many people , the one I'm used to seeing on various out of the way car parks & remote areas be they coastal or countryside venues is the mess & filth left behind , don't compare in the least possible way to people hiking the footpaths & byways of the United Kingdom during the day, stopping to pitch up for the night & moving on the next day, leaving the chosen area totally as they found it before they camped.

I've done that myself many years ago while cycling from Derbyshire to Lincolnshire /Norfolk and back for a short break. 

Let's call a spade a spade shall we & replace the word ' Wild ' with 'Free' .

Many a countryside beauty spot car park as been closed by the local councils to discourage such Wild Camping in my home county of Derbyshire. 

Good post and how those who these days it seems,  are not willing to be flexible or wring their hands at any thing that cannot be spoon fed to them   

I have posted before it is still quite possible to do tours on the spur of the moment,in the UK it is just a bit more "dificult?" at high peak times, with the growing it seems, LV market in this country and "staycations" and i agree with the problems that untill the novelty wears off , the NC500 will blight the North of Scotland

The Wales tour that is being promoted by visit Wales will soon start to be a problem also

Here you have it, it seems to be a hijacked name subsumed by the LV fraternity as a way of adding a thin veil of cool acceptability to what is a not very nice pursuit🤷🏻‍♂️☹️-

There are now very very few places in England you can truly wild camp, and none of them to my knowledge involve a motorhome! Mostly tents, a few will allow small camper vans. Dartmoor used to allow wild tent camping in certain locations, but after the mayhem of last year, this has been revised, some areas are now banned and it’s much more closely monitored.
There are one or two websites with good links to places like farms that allow wild tent camping. No use whatsoever to MH owners though.......

Forestry Commission are opening up more car parks for overnight stays, no facilities, and last time I looked, £10 per night. Limited numbers allowed, and probably (hopefully) with cc cameras to monitor behaviour. 

Let's call a spade a spade shall we & replace the word ' Wild ' with 'Free' .

What you really mean Compass is FLT.

peedee

There is an element within this thread and the one that Ted started about CL owners (now locked) which I think illustrates that the leisure vehicle market and requirement of owners is changing but the acceptance of that change is difficult for some to reconcile. When I caravanned the prospect of staying elsewhere other than a campsite/CL probably wouldn't have entered my mind. However since becoming a motorhomer I am more sympathetic even if I have no immediate plans to join the free/wild campers. The fact that in Europe there are thousands of perfectly legal free overnight stops provided probably leads to some puzzlement as to why the same is not true in the UK? 

One element of Ted's website I found interesting was that he felt the need to spell out to CL owners was the different requirements needed to attract motorhomers. Anyone reading the various motorhome forums and Facebook pages will realise there is a very high demand to be free of the conventional campsite solution for overnight stays. The education for motorhomers is to point out that such freedom doesn't come without a cost. Although, apparently, the Club have embraced motorhoming they have done so within the conventional framework of campsites. It might not be practical for all sites to offer a waste and refill option but there will be some sites where such a facility could be offered and perhaps it's time for the Club to experiment? If it doesn't work the experiment can be ended but if it does it could be extended.

David

It might not be practical for all sites to offer a waste and refill option but there will be some sites where such a facility could be offered and perhaps it's time for the Club to experiment?

I, personally, have no desire for the club to provide these facilities for those choosing to stay where there are non. Whilst I do not directly condemn those doing so I see no reason for CMC to promote it.

The education for motorhomers is to point out that such freedom doesn't come without a cost.

I doubt this is true David. A survey last year in which 9000 owners responded indicated 96 percent of owners were willing to pay £10 per night just to park overnight and would pay more if there were motorhome services available as well. I think there are very very few who expect to pay nothing and of the 4 percent who wouldn't pay £10, considering it to be too expensive, they would probably be willing to pay something.

I think this year there will either be a shake up of the conventions in the UK which will attract more motorhome owners to tour the UK or a golden opportunity will be missed and might not be recovered perhaps for ever.

peedee

and of the 4 percent who wouldn't pay £10 considering it to be too expensive, they would probably be willing to pay something

How do you know this? equally one could say they willing to pay nothing?

Could you perhaps post a link to this survey?