Ability to chose hardstanding pitches on all sites

AandJ replied on 08/09/2021 17:47

Posted on 08/09/2021 17:47

I want the club to look at giving members the option to chose hard standing or grass pitch on the sites where standard pitches can be either or. 
This season I have experienced problems on a few popular sites whereby I’ve booked a standard pitch with awning only to turn up (at a reasonable time 2-3pm) to find there are only grass pitches left. With a 4.5 tonne Motorhome this makes me Cringe. With all the rain we’ve had grass pitches have been really soft and twice we’ve had to get off using mud runners. 
I’ve also seen many other Motorhome sand larger caravans struggling to stop wheels sinking in or awning being like mud pools. There have been several reviews around on some of these sites were members have stated they’ve booked a std pitch with awning expecting hardstanding, as on sites that are all hardstanding, only to turn up to be told only grass left and these have been very wet and several not fit for purpose. 
The sites that I experienced problems with and heard from other members that have major issues are, Tewkesbury, Hurn Lane, Seacroft, Hill Head and Gowerton. There are probably others. 
I know some people like grass and that’s fine, but if that’s the case let them book them and let those of us who literally hate them cos they are not suitable for modern caravans or Motorhome chose hard standing. 
I don’t even mind paying a bit more for hard standing but I do object to paying the same for a poor quality, inferior, soggy under sized grass pitch ( lots of these at Tewkesbury and Hurn Lane ) . It should be personal choice so give us that choice and I think you might find there’s a drop in bookings at these sites, perhaps that’s why you don’t put in in the information options. 
Of course the best option would be to do away with soggy grass pitches and make them hard standing or at least increase the proportion of hard standing . So come on CAMC give us the option on all sites so that we’re all getting the same value for our money and not getting Stuck in the Mud which is we’re the club seems to be .

SteveL replied on 15/09/2021 08:22

Posted on 15/09/2021 06:17 by DaveCyn

I take it that sites like Ilfracombe which are all grass pitches are "Out of Bounds" to all the Hard Standings are a must have crew?

Or do you want them gravelled over and turned into a car park as well?

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:22

Assuming the club would be allowed to put hardstandings in, I would have thought market forces would prevail in those situations. If more revenue can be brought in by either attracting more punters and / or extending the season then it would be only sensible for the club to consider it amongst its other plans. One thing the booking trial did show was that Hardstandings booked up first, rather than grass. If folk are going to look elsewhere, as I would if all hardstandings were booked, why wouldn’t you cater for demand by installing more.

replied on 15/09/2021 08:22

Posted on 15/09/2021 06:17 by DaveCyn

I take it that sites like Ilfracombe which are all grass pitches are "Out of Bounds" to all the Hard Standings are a must have crew?

Or do you want them gravelled over and turned into a car park as well?

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:22

No need to try and cast insult at those with a preference for HS

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/09/2021 08:28

Posted on 15/09/2021 06:17 by DaveCyn

I take it that sites like Ilfracombe which are all grass pitches are "Out of Bounds" to all the Hard Standings are a must have crew?

Or do you want them gravelled over and turned into a car park as well?

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:28

Do you not think you are taking the whole hardstandings thing a bit too far?🤷🏻‍♂️. I’ve not seen anyone advocating for total hardstandings anywhere. It’s a personal choice that is hoped for.

This is the OP’s(A&J) direct quote-“I want the club to look at giving members the option to chose hard standing or grass pitch on the sites where standard pitches can be either or”

N1805 replied on 15/09/2021 08:31

Posted on 14/09/2021 21:16 by Tinwheeler

It’s anybody's guess what the club might be planning.

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:31

Did notice 'Late Availability' gives a lot of choices with regard to booking pitch types.  I don't think all types will be available at all sites though.    Maybe this is a clue to future booking choices.

EmilysDad replied on 15/09/2021 08:31

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:22 by

No need to try and cast insult at those with a preference for HS

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:31

is Dave casting insults? That's how it comes across to those of us that don't have a preference for hardstanding. I'm sure if they could gravel all pitches on all sites, the club would have already done so or started to do so.

The C&CC site I was recently on had a good mix of both surface types & it was certainly NOT the case that the hardstandings were fully used before the grass ... admittedly there was a wider mix of caravans/MHs/tents/trailer tents. 

eurortraveller replied on 15/09/2021 08:33

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:33

I read A&J’s opening post. It beats me why he sticks to Club sites if he / she finds them so unsatisfactory. A bit like someone sticking to Wetherspoons but wanting them to change the menu because they don’t like it - but still going there. Go somewhere else. There are other sites run by other operators which will give him the hard standing he wants. 

ErnieJH replied on 15/09/2021 08:37

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:37

Like most people I think it is quite reasonable for people to be able to book the type of pitch, hard standing or grass, I suspect that the current booking system has the ability to do this and all it needs is for the decision to be made. There were claims that it confused people during the trial. However people don’t appear to be confused by serviced pitches. I think the only confusion was probably due to people changing their minds what sort of pitch they wanted when they arrived on site. But I think waiting for a change is like watching paint dry.

replied on 15/09/2021 08:52

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:22 by SteveL

Assuming the club would be allowed to put hardstandings in, I would have thought market forces would prevail in those situations. If more revenue can be brought in by either attracting more punters and / or extending the season then it would be only sensible for the club to consider it amongst its other plans. One thing the booking trial did show was that Hardstandings booked up first, rather than grass. If folk are going to look elsewhere, as I would if all hardstandings were booked, why wouldn’t you cater for demand by installing more.

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:52

When booking sites on a tour route I have, in the past, always considered the amount of hard standing pitches. If the percentage of grass pitches was high I would go elsewhere. In that way I could always achieve a HS pitch.

I wonder what the effect on bookings will be overall? If more people book further ahead then it could well mean my not using certain sites as I suspect when I come to book I may struggle on some sites to get HS. I do wonder if the result will be an increase in take up of overall pitches or a reduction.

 

brue replied on 15/09/2021 09:06

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:31 by N1805

Did notice 'Late Availability' gives a lot of choices with regard to booking pitch types.  I don't think all types will be available at all sites though.    Maybe this is a clue to future booking choices.

Posted on 15/09/2021 09:06

Yes it's obviously changing in preparation for something, I see the multisurfaced pitches aren't on yet. I discovered yesterday these are bookable at Tewkesbury. A half way house for anyone who prefers harder pitches. 

SteveL replied on 15/09/2021 09:09

Posted on 15/09/2021 08:52 by

When booking sites on a tour route I have, in the past, always considered the amount of hard standing pitches. If the percentage of grass pitches was high I would go elsewhere. In that way I could always achieve a HS pitch.

I wonder what the effect on bookings will be overall? If more people book further ahead then it could well mean my not using certain sites as I suspect when I come to book I may struggle on some sites to get HS. I do wonder if the result will be an increase in take up of overall pitches or a reduction.

 

Posted on 15/09/2021 09:09

Personally I think it will result in a reduction in overall pitch bookings at the ends of the year when grass is still in use. In the middle part not so much. Probably the reason the CC didn’t want to introduce it, supposedly due to confusion. Pitch type booking will I think inevitably lead to the construction of more hardstanding at the expense of grass.  

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