C&CC closing sites

DavidKlyne replied on 14/10/2021 16:06

Posted on 14/10/2021 13:22 by MichaelT

More reason for the club to introduce non electric option so users have a choice.  Either trust someone not to plug in or remove the circuit breaker.

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:06

That would be fine by me but I suspect more difficult to police? What would be interesting would be to see what value the Club put on a daily electrical connection?

David

JVB66 replied on 14/10/2021 16:36

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:06 by DavidKlyne

That would be fine by me but I suspect more difficult to police? What would be interesting would be to see what value the Club put on a daily electrical connection?

David

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:36

When it was an add cost, several of our friends told us that it was, even back then a problem with some "non users"?  Who would  do all sorts to save paying for the EHU although they would plug in when they expected not to be noticed,, , it is the same now with some EV and Hibrid owners ,it was the honest users as now  who normally advised the site staff., or the late dog walking warden who knew the pitches that were not payingsurprised 

On sites that had lockable bollar if busy some site staff would trip and then lock the bollard for the pitch, Very few now  as the latest you need to access the trips when you plug into the EHU, 

Navigateur replied on 14/10/2021 16:49

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:49

The switching on/off for the bollard can be done at the time of booking using RF or Wifi controlled consumer units. It could probably even be made automatic on a well constructed computer system that would check whether electricity was paid for and switch accordingly.  Just have to replace all the consumer units.

However, with the trend to more electrical devices in the new caravans it is questionable just how many people would want a free of EHU pitch.  Personally, I would prefer the effort being put into providing 32 ampere connections.  That is, after all, what the outlet sockets are rated for, though I suspect the cabling all the way back to the grid is not.

brue replied on 14/10/2021 16:51

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:06 by DavidKlyne

That would be fine by me but I suspect more difficult to police? What would be interesting would be to see what value the Club put on a daily electrical connection?

David

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:51

You can get some idea from the charges applied on C & CC non ehu pitches and I think a few  CAMC economy pitches (unfortunately these aren't always very good to use.)

BoleroBoy replied on 14/10/2021 17:18

Posted on 14/10/2021 17:18

Eggs and basket come to mind...relying on a single fuel to power everything from cars to trains, heating to refrigeration etc....

currently a Combi can be specified to run on electric or gas or diesel depending on one's requirements.

it does seem mad that club campers that are able aren't being encouraged to reduce their electric usage and keep site (and pitch) costs down.

I understand the heating issue highlighted by Steve, but during the summer there's plenty of scope to have a non EHU pitch.

...and it seems that the 'we can't do this because....' scenarios were exactly the benefits we would get by shrugging off the myriad EU red tape regulations...

even the counties that are still part of the system don't have a problem in being able to offer the EHU power/payment Variations described by AD above.

why can't we 'just do it'?

JVB66 replied on 14/10/2021 17:25

Posted on 14/10/2021 16:49 by Navigateur

The switching on/off for the bollard can be done at the time of booking using RF or Wifi controlled consumer units. It could probably even be made automatic on a well constructed computer system that would check whether electricity was paid for and switch accordingly.  Just have to replace all the consumer units.

However, with the trend to more electrical devices in the new caravans it is questionable just how many people would want a free of EHU pitch.  Personally, I would prefer the effort being put into providing 32 ampere connections.  That is, after all, what the outlet sockets are rated for, though I suspect the cabling all the way back to the grid is not.

Posted on 14/10/2021 17:25

How does the 32amp connection work  when there are up to four 16amp outlets on some Ehu bollardssurprised

KjellNN replied on 14/10/2021 17:28

Posted on 14/10/2021 11:30 by MichaelT

Probably because when yours were growing up there were not many facilities or amenities we are now used to in a modern world.  Kids now are used to fantastic playgrounds with lots of adventure equipment whereas years ago like when I grew up a slide, a couple of swings and a witches hat were all you got. 

I have been on very few C&MC sites with good play areas for kids young and old, yes a few do have a games room or indoor area they can meet and a few do have some nice play equipment for a modern age but most do not.

Posted on 14/10/2021 17:28

Thanks, my view too, so you have saved me having to write that.

KjellNN replied on 14/10/2021 17:30

Posted on 14/10/2021 11:40 by JVB66

I suppose also it seems modern day parents ,are less likely to be able to keep their offspring entertained as in the pastundecided

Posted on 14/10/2021 17:30

Are you always so negative JVB?

Cornersteady replied on 14/10/2021 17:41

Posted on 14/10/2021 10:34 by KjellNN

Corners......I point you to your post above.   You ask, or say, "Most  club sites  are like this?"

I am replying that that this is not the case.    Some, even many,  may be, but not most, especially not in Scotland!

 

Posted on 14/10/2021 17:41

Well lets do some maths? I've just done a quick count and not taking into account AS sites Scottish sites account for about 12% of club sites, yet you keep trying to paint the whole network just on Scottish sites. You're the one who keeps posting using only Scottish sites to substantiate your views, it is simply not the case.

And now your pushing this by arguing about the difference between many and most to rpove your point? is there a difference?

I think you need to visit more sites before making such wild assumptions Kj. I can probably say I've been to more than you. Now try and keep on topic?