C&CC closing sites

Tinwheeler replied on 16/07/2021 19:22

Posted on 16/07/2021 19:22

I read elsewhere that C&CC are closing some sites and cancelling people’s bookings due to staff shortages. Sure enough, it's true and they've updated their website today. I hope nobody here is affected.

C&CC site closures

 

 

JVB66 replied on 13/10/2021 17:19

Posted on 13/10/2021 16:33 by brue

Prices will go up, no doubt about it due to rising costs everywhere. Will everyone want to pay higher costs whilst seeing their income being stretched at home is another matter. Recruitment will get harder, incentives probably aren't very good. Where can the tourist leisure industry cut costs?

It looks as though sites large and small in both clubs are affected by the latest staff shortages.

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:19

Even here surprised

Tinwheeler replied on 13/10/2021 17:25

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:11 by sainsworth

Just had an email to say Alderstead heath is closing from Nov til Jan due to staff shortages ,and to cancel my booking and to book Brighton or Abbey wood. I then went on to check Gatwick as I am booked on there for Xmas , this is also closed til Jan due to staff shortages as well as Wyatt covert.  I am disappointed that all are closed you would think they would have left one open . As my family life in Crawley and we were visiting beg of dec and Xmas I have now booked a commercial site . Feel that it is bad planning by cmhc. 

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:25

I understand your disappointment but I’m not quite sure what the club is meant to do if staff leave or go long term sick, for instance. They can’t magic up replacement wardens from thin air to keep even one site open if such people either don’t exist or aren’t willing to work.

I hope you enjoy the alternative site.

 

 

JVB66 replied on 13/10/2021 17:25

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:11 by sainsworth

Just had an email to say Alderstead heath is closing from Nov til Jan due to staff shortages ,and to cancel my booking and to book Brighton or Abbey wood. I then went on to check Gatwick as I am booked on there for Xmas , this is also closed til Jan due to staff shortages as well as Wyatt covert.  I am disappointed that all are closed you would think they would have left one open . As my family life in Crawley and we were visiting beg of dec and Xmas I have now booked a commercial site . Feel that it is bad planning by cmhc. 

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:25

 Site staff are on max 10 month yearly contracts ,and depending what the seasonal sites open dates are,

Graydjames replied on 13/10/2021 17:29

Posted on 12/10/2021 18:47 by JillwithaJay

Personally, from some remarks I've read both here and on other social media platforms, the club would do well to support its own site staff.  Allegedly, when people arrive at 10.30 am and phone to complain to HO that the site staff won't let them in, only to find that HO instruct the site staff to let them in.  

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:29

If that is true, I find it utterly shocking. If I had real evidence to support this claim my letter would be winging its way to HQ immediately.  

JVB66 replied on 13/10/2021 17:46

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:46

I suppose it had not crossed your mind that ,as noted the age of many site staff,,your, supposition of rich enough to buy  a large Caravan? may well be payed for by an upgrade and money from their retirement packages,cool

Graydjames replied on 13/10/2021 17:50

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:07 by Cornersteady

I think you perhaps don't understand what run on a shoestring means? I don't see what the club provides as being that?

In any case do you have any actual costs to support your case?

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:50

Run on a shoestring means that it is run using very little money.

I agree entirely with Cornersteady that club sites are surely far from that. I dread to think of the costs involved staffing sites, paying for waste clearance, buying cleaning products and other consumables, computers, internet, telephone, stationery, repairs, grass and grounds maintenance, machinery, machinery maintenance, electricity and lots more I have not yet thought of.  

I think there is confusion here. CMC sites (or most of them anyway) have no fancy facilities like cafés or bars or restaurants or swimming pools and such like. (And all the better for that in my view.) They are essentially basic, but they are of good quality. Being basic, but of good quality is absolutely not the same as being run on a shoestring.    

Tinwheeler replied on 13/10/2021 17:51

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:29 by Graydjames

If that is true, I find it utterly shocking. If I had real evidence to support this claim my letter would be winging its way to HQ immediately.  

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:51

I don’t doubt the veracity of JwJ's comment, GDJ, as I’ve heard similar accounts of lack of support and back up from HQ from various wardens over the years.

One has to wonder if this has any bearing on the current staff shortage situation🤔.

Cornersteady replied on 13/10/2021 18:18

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:50 by Graydjames

Run on a shoestring means that it is run using very little money.

I agree entirely with Cornersteady that club sites are surely far from that. I dread to think of the costs involved staffing sites, paying for waste clearance, buying cleaning products and other consumables, computers, internet, telephone, stationery, repairs, grass and grounds maintenance, machinery, machinery maintenance, electricity and lots more I have not yet thought of.  

I think there is confusion here. CMC sites (or most of them anyway) have no fancy facilities like cafés or bars or restaurants or swimming pools and such like. (And all the better for that in my view.) They are essentially basic, but they are of good quality. Being basic, but of good quality is absolutely not the same as being run on a shoestring.    

Posted on 13/10/2021 18:18

+1 especially to your last sentence.

eurortraveller replied on 13/10/2021 18:24

Posted on 13/10/2021 17:11 by sainsworth

Just had an email to say Alderstead heath is closing from Nov til Jan due to staff shortages ,and to cancel my booking and to book Brighton or Abbey wood. I then went on to check Gatwick as I am booked on there for Xmas , this is also closed til Jan due to staff shortages as well as Wyatt covert.  I am disappointed that all are closed you would think they would have left one open . As my family life in Crawley and we were visiting beg of dec and Xmas I have now booked a commercial site . Feel that it is bad planning by cmhc. 

Posted on 13/10/2021 18:24

Sainsworth, Travel Lodge hotel at Gatwick is quoting £24 per night per double room in late December (breakfast xtra) . Is that an alternative to your commercial campsite for your visit to Crawley? 

young thomas replied on 13/10/2021 18:45

Posted on 13/10/2021 11:36 by Takethedogalong

It’s good to know Peedee. We are looking at simple overnight pull ins for our Winter tour. Just somewhere legal and safe to sleep, as we move around from places of interest. 

Posted on 13/10/2021 18:45

Try the park4night app, TDDA👍

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