Cirencester Park access road

moulesy replied on 07/06/2020 16:26

Posted on 07/06/2020 16:26

We were out walking near Cirencester today so thought we'd divert to wander past the club site to see how things looked.

Well, not sure if this is good news or bad, but the access road has been diverted.. 

So - good news - for anyone with a pothole aversion - it's been resurfaced and the tarmac is now billiard table smooth (apart from the inevitable speed humps!)

Not such good news - instead of a long straight road with plenty of wide stretches to allow for units to pass it is now very narrow and winding, with large boulders each side at the entrance and just a couple of small lay bys for passing, so heaven help you if you meet another unit coming in or out.

I can't see any practical alternative to the "off by 12 and no arrivals before 1" arrangement. We'll just have to wait and see - well, not us obviously! wink

KjellNN replied on 13/06/2020 11:21

Posted on 13/06/2020 11:21

I read through the whole thing, the Estate had asked for a 5m wide road, which the college said they could not afford and was unnecessary.  They had apparently not even intended to provide passing places until the error of that was pointed out.  The road is supposed to be 3m wide, so not a lot left either side of a large caravan or MH.

The rocks are supposed to be helping stabilise the bankings, and to stop cars going off the side of the tarmac. I doubt there was any consideration of whether they would allow for tail swing of caravans and large MHs on the bends.

The passing places are 15m long and meant for cars to pull in as those towing caravans have priority over  solo cars.

DavidKlyne replied on 13/06/2020 12:36

Posted on 13/06/2020 12:36

KJ

I initially only skipped through the planning document but on more careful reading it is indeed the College that is causing the problem and of course they would not, I imagine, have no real interest in the campsite as that is probably on land owned by the Bathurst Estate? I suppose it is probable that the Bathurst Estate did originally consult the Club and that was probably where the 5 metre width was suggested but this has clearly been overridden by the College and how we have ended up with a totally unsuitable approach road to the site. It might also explain why the Club, apparently,  did not offer a view on the plans if they felt that was being handled by the Bathurst Estate? It is difficult to see what recourse the Club has. Perhaps the Club should have been more proactive in helping to pay for the new road which would have given them a stake in deciding on the design?

David

KjellNN replied on 13/06/2020 12:59

Posted on 13/06/2020 12:59

Yes, I found it strange that the college stated the Club had not taken part when invited to comment.  

Looking at the plans, the passing places seem to be only 2m wide, though I may be wrong as the text on the drawings Is difficult to read, so pretty narrow for passing.  What will happen when an incoming caravan meets a MH going out for shopping etc?  Or a returning from shopping MH meets a caravan leaving in the morning?

Will be like some of the bends on the route to the Club's Coniston site, when a caravan meets a large MH, and we will not be going there again either!

The comment that the college had agreed to provide the passing places "to assist caravanners who were not skilled at reversing" is laughable!   I can reverse, but there are limits, and I certainly would not want to be faced with reversing a 12.75m outfit over 200metres, with 2 bends, and only about 37cm clearance either side!!

 

SteveL replied on 13/06/2020 16:10

Posted on 13/06/2020 16:10

The other issue, particularly in the darker months, is that the only way back from town after 5pm is the new road. The college was going on about safety and separating pedestrians, but was only considering students and staff. There is no walkway along the side of the road, only the prospect of walking along it and nipping behind a rock if anything comes. There is often a fair bit of comming and going from the tennis club, which has floodlights. As the new road is a fair bit further away, there will not be much overspill from the college lights, so it will be fairly dark once the clocks go back. 

ErnieJH replied on 13/06/2020 18:55

Posted on 13/06/2020 18:55

Unfortunately I think that the new road has made the access to what is a really good site very poor, I will be waiting for the comments once the site has opened. I have booked for September but I am starting to think I should look for an alternative, which is a shame. Even without the rocks I think this road would be difficult to access, even for cars just going out for the day may bring problems. I can see a few arguments over who should back up when two vehicles meet and the college may find it has created a problem for it's own vehicles. I dread to think what will happen when the Cotswold Show is on, as this is the main exit road.

gemma1675 replied on 14/06/2020 13:34

Posted on 11/06/2020 20:44 by DavidKlyne

This is the planning document rather interestingly it contains the following statement!!! 

"The Tennis and Cricket club were pleased with the design of the road and the emphasis upon safety but wanted some
passing spaces so that caravans did not need to reverse. The Caravan Club did not respond to invitations to this
consultation"

The Estates main contention seems to be that the old road was destroyed by thoughtless 4X4 owners! I am not quite sure what the status is of the Club site but I assume it is on a lease. Clearly the Estate did not consider/really understand the requirements of an access road to a caravan site and from some of the language didn't seem much to care. The boulders were mentioned in the planning document and are clearly in place to prevent erosion of the edges of the road. Just a note, also included in the, text that use of the road is at the risk of the user!!!

David

 

Posted on 14/06/2020 13:34

Cannot believe they did not respond to this consultation.....

Caerphilly replied on 14/06/2020 13:47

Posted on 14/06/2020 13:47

 We've used this site quite a few times and enjoyed each visit. We will remember fondly our last stay here, as unless the access road is made more caravan friendly, it will be our last visit.

ClubMember2898D2234E replied on 14/06/2020 13:55

Posted on 14/06/2020 13:55

Have just cancelled my booking for July. We know this road very well having bounced up and down It with three motorhomes Over the years.

We swapped to our first ever caravan the day before lockdown and there is no way I would risk towing it as a novice down that road.

even if the club introduce out by 12 and in after 1 this will not stop you meeting the summertime traffic to the cricket and tennis club. Unlike somewhere like chatsworth which is tightly controlled but where you won’t face any oncoming traffic other than the site’s 

so long Cirencester, it was great while it lasted !

 

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