Interesting petition

mhparking replied on 04/08/2018 11:48

Posted on 04/08/2018 11:48

A new petition has been created urging the CAMC to look at alternative provision for motorhomes on the basis that they need less facilities than are provided by existing sites and located closer to towns.

It makes an interesting suggestion that existing sites might suffer if (towed) caravan sales decline as a result of lack of availability of suitable tow cars.

Assuming that it receives sufficient support, I would hope that the CAMC would provide a reasoned response (whether positive or negative), based on constructive thought, rather than simply ignoring it.

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/parking-for-motorhomes-similar-to-the-french-style-of-aire-de-camping-car

Kennine replied on 04/08/2018 11:56

Posted on 04/08/2018 11:56

What an interesting link.  It's exactly what many forward thinking people have been suggesting on this forum and others for some time now.  Motorhomers and Camper van owners are mostly proper tourers and their requirements differ from those of tuggers.  Camping organisations need to recognise this, or they will miss out on all that business that the surge in motor home ownership engenders. 

smile

Randomcamper replied on 04/08/2018 12:02

Posted on 04/08/2018 12:02

What exactly are you asking the Club to do,  buy up plots of land near towns and convert them to "Aires"...??

It's a lovely idea, but how much would it cost, I assume land within walking distance of anywhere attractive enough that I would want to visit that place will be expensive...??

Has this been costed out, is there a business case, will the returns justify the capital expenditure...?

If there is a business case, would other organisations be prepared to do it....?

KenofKent replied on 04/08/2018 12:59

Posted on 04/08/2018 12:59

When I suggested something similar, low facility sites, as modern caravans (of all sorts) carry there own facilities I was shouted down by a few on here for not being inclusive. The reason being that tenters and yurters need the facilities.

I responded by arguing we are a caravanning club and there are other organisations that may be more suitable for non-caravanning holidays, saving members money in site fees and facilities.

I now see both sides of the argument, but would ask are we a club that now provides all things to all comers?

Ken

mhparking replied on 04/08/2018 13:02

Posted on 04/08/2018 12:02 by Randomcamper

What exactly are you asking the Club to do,  buy up plots of land near towns and convert them to "Aires"...??

It's a lovely idea, but how much would it cost, I assume land within walking distance of anywhere attractive enough that I would want to visit that place will be expensive...??

Has this been costed out, is there a business case, will the returns justify the capital expenditure...?

If there is a business case, would other organisations be prepared to do it....?

Posted on 04/08/2018 13:02

I'm not asking anything, simply reporting that the petition exists - for no other reason than to promote constructive discussion.

I'm sure you are right that urban land would be expensive but if the industry does change as the petition promoter suggests then acquisition (which would probably be of smaller parcels of land than current sites occupy) might (at least in part) be funded by sale of existing underused sites.

Obviously a business case would have to be made but that is what I meant by constructive thought in my original post.

It may well be that other organisations would be interested but the petition promoter just happens to have chosen to approach the CAMC.

KenofKent replied on 04/08/2018 13:08

Posted on 04/08/2018 13:08

mhparking, what extra facilities do I need as a caravanner that Motorhomer’s don’t?

I don’t need a hard standing, I don’t need to be near town or a bus stop, but can see the desirability.

Just wondering, what else you need that I don’t

Ken

mhparking replied on 04/08/2018 13:36

Posted on 04/08/2018 13:08 by KenofKent

mhparking, what extra facilities do I need as a caravanner that Motorhomer’s don’t?

I don’t need a hard standing, I don’t need to be near town or a bus stop, but can see the desirability.

Just wondering, what else you need that I don’t

Ken

Posted on 04/08/2018 13:36

It depends on what you define as an individual I suppose. We will all have differences there (both within and between the caravanners and motorhomers). Personally I would never deny there are some caravanners who are just as self sufficient in their units as motorhomers.

Perhaps the biggest difference, taking both as a whole, is in water storage and disposal with proportionately more motorhomes having on board tanks.

The petition promoter, though, picks up on the point that, traditionally and in general, caravanners have tended to require more site facilities than motorhomers (which is why sites in the UK have developed as they have) but that the increasing use of motorhomes is tending to move away from that model.

Graham

Tinwheeler replied on 04/08/2018 13:56

Posted on 04/08/2018 13:56

Sorry but I think that idea is straight out of cloud cuckoo land. 

Who is to foot the bill and where is the land to be found? 

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