Proportion of Serviced v Standard Pitches

DavidKlyne replied on 25/06/2019 12:57

Posted on 25/06/2019 12:57

On this forum the subject of whether there are not enough or too many serviced pitches has been discussed from time to time. We have recently stayed at the new Club site Cayton Village near Scarborough. Nice site and from a motorhome perspective it has good access to public transport. However what surprised me was the fact that the site only seemed about half full over the weekend and I wondered if this was a result of the site having a majority of serviced pitches, 190 out of about 270 pitches in total and people not being willing to pay the extra £3.90 a night? I suspect when the Club refurbish the the site the number of serviced pitches will be considerably reduced as in general the current ones don't meet the Clubs spacing requirements. The reason we had  a serviced pitch was that we wanted a hardstanding and with only 29 standard hardstanding on the site we didn't want to risk it! 

David

EmilysDad replied on 27/06/2019 00:11

Posted on 26/06/2019 17:30 by flatcoat

We generally prefer to use serviced pitches and pay the premium. I find it bizarre that people are happy to spend £40k or more on a motorhome or car and caravan and then constantly moan about club pitch prices or paying another £4/night. Out of the annual costs of caravanning it is minimal. We are all consumers and until caravanning is nationalised or outlawed still free to take our custom wherever we wish and pay less if the club is deemed so extortionate. Sometimes we go on private sites (as we will be next month in Cornwall), sometimes we use club sites. 

Posted on 27/06/2019 00:11

Some might just not pay £4 a night for a tap & drain on principle ..... 

Justus2 replied on 27/06/2019 06:15

Posted on 27/06/2019 06:15

We have used "serviced pitches" on CLs and sites where there is no option, but we have never paid extra to use one and never intend to. Being both fit and able, I really don't see such a huge benefit in paying an extra £4 just to save 10 or 15 mins each day. As we are away for around 90 nights per year, if we paid and stayed on CC serviced pitches every-time ( which we don't ) that is potentially an extra cost of £360 per year... For us there are far better ways of spending that money, and for us every charged for service pitch is a pitch lost which we will never ever use. If some find that bizarre then so be it. We each have a choice...cool

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Posted on 27/06/2019 07:27

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cyberyacht replied on 27/06/2019 07:59

Posted on 27/06/2019 07:59

If one has a a caravan/motorhome with all the facilities/home comforts, a service pitch seems to come into the category of paying for the same thing twice. Somewhat akin to Merve's approach to EHU.

Cornersteady replied on 27/06/2019 08:00

Posted on 26/06/2019 22:51 by Tinwheeler

I was asking exactly what you were saying because what I described was the implication I picked up. Thanks for clarifying.

Actually, if you read Hooker’s post in context it was about the ridiculousness of people spending mega bucks on an LV and then scrimping on site fees in general, not just SP fees.

I find the concept of different pots of money rather odd. What you (and others) describe is a bit like buying steak because the food money pot is flush and turning the heating off because the lekky pot is empty. It suggests poor budgeting skills to my mind.

 

Posted on 27/06/2019 08:00

+1 to your last paragraph there TW. Even if a 'windfall' allows you (one) to buy that expensive outfit it is rather odd to not think of the future running costs (including site fees) when you've bought it. Even odder, in my mind, is then to have to scrimp and save on other things to allow you to use it?

Still it's your (one's) money and your choices.  

Cornersteady replied on 27/06/2019 08:08

Posted on 27/06/2019 07:59 by cyberyacht

If one has a a caravan/motorhome with all the facilities/home comforts, a service pitch seems to come into the category of paying for the same thing twice. Somewhat akin to Merve's approach to EHU.

Posted on 27/06/2019 08:08

then if you feel that way don't buy a SP.

Actually I'm not sure what all the home comforts have to do with using a SP and paying for something twice?

If you had said using a site with facilities then yes I can see your point but a SP?

What 'twice-ness' are you paying for? All a SP allows  is not to do the daily (or whatever) trip to the water/waste points, or worry about the water running out or wastemaster needing emptying.

In my view that is worth every penny, I'm on holiday.

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Posted on 26/06/2019 23:20 by KjellNN

Yes, that is why we bought the van we have, and the one before it.

Our previous van (1998) had a very good full width end shower room which meant we could be totally independent of site facilities, or the lack of them, if necessary, so we looked for something at least as good when we decided to change to a fixed bed model (2008).

The great strength of Club sites is that you can generally depend on there being good disabled facilities, something that is not always available abroad, so as we planned to tour in Europe for extended periods, not needing to worry about such facilities was essential.

Although we had not thought of it at the time, 11 years back, it also means that we can use no-facility sites and CLs in UK, which we have been doing increasingly in the last few years to keep site costs down.

Previous van was purchased with money from savings while I was working, current one was from pension lump sum, as was the towcar we bought when I retired in 2007,  Current towcar was purchased with savings from pension income in the previous 9 years, we make a point of saving enough to replace capital used on such purchases, and of living within our income.  

This is becoming more difficult each year as my pension is not rising as fast as inflation, so we are increasingly focusing on site costs as one of the things that we can choose to do something about.

 

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Cornersteady replied on 27/06/2019 08:23

Posted on 26/06/2019 23:20 by KjellNN

Yes, that is why we bought the van we have, and the one before it.

Our previous van (1998) had a very good full width end shower room which meant we could be totally independent of site facilities, or the lack of them, if necessary, so we looked for something at least as good when we decided to change to a fixed bed model (2008).

The great strength of Club sites is that you can generally depend on there being good disabled facilities, something that is not always available abroad, so as we planned to tour in Europe for extended periods, not needing to worry about such facilities was essential.

Although we had not thought of it at the time, 11 years back, it also means that we can use no-facility sites and CLs in UK, which we have been doing increasingly in the last few years to keep site costs down.

Previous van was purchased with money from savings while I was working, current one was from pension lump sum, as was the towcar we bought when I retired in 2007,  Current towcar was purchased with savings from pension income in the previous 9 years, we make a point of saving enough to replace capital used on such purchases, and of living within our income.  

This is becoming more difficult each year as my pension is not rising as fast as inflation, so we are increasingly focusing on site costs as one of the things that we can choose to do something about.

 

Posted on 27/06/2019 08:23

except that you do that (focusing on UK site costs) as you wish to tour abroad for an extended time and costing many thousands of pounds each time (using your own figures) and not because site fees here are expensive, it is just that you prefer to spend your money in that way?

Tinwheeler replied on 27/06/2019 08:28

Posted on 27/06/2019 08:00 by Cornersteady

+1 to your last paragraph there TW. Even if a 'windfall' allows you (one) to buy that expensive outfit it is rather odd to not think of the future running costs (including site fees) when you've bought it. Even odder, in my mind, is then to have to scrimp and save on other things to allow you to use it?

Still it's your (one's) money and your choices.  

Posted on 27/06/2019 08:28

Exactly my feelings. It’s not the same as having bought an LV in more affluent times and having to redraw one’s budget in later years but my point is about the short sightedness of splashing out big money on an LV when using it is outside of one’s financial ability. 

Justus2 replied on 27/06/2019 08:30

Posted on 27/06/2019 08:30

To those on here who seem to find it odd or indeed bizarre that everyone doesn't do as they do and pay to use a serviced pitch, i.e. £4 per day just to save having to fill or plan to fill their water. I find it equally odd that people ARE prepared to pay £4 just to save 10 or 15 mins work, not scrimping or saving, just a complete waste of money in my opinion as it is such a simple and easy thing to do, but as ever we are all different eh.. wink

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