Covid - news and views

brue replied on 08/02/2021 13:35

Posted on 08/02/2021 13:35

It's good to hear that members of CT are receiving their vaccinations, good luck to all those yet to have theirs. It seems like a long haul till we get everyone sorted and hear the results of the present vaccines. 

I'm leaving this open for non political comments as per the guidelines. Hope you can add your own experiences and thoughts.

My first jab comes up tomorrow, I'm so glad we have research institutions that have got us this far! And I am planning breaks away in the hope of improvements on the horizon.

 

brue replied on 12/06/2021 09:07

Posted on 12/06/2021 09:07

I'm still using the interactive map to see where the Covid outbreaks are most evident. When you zoom in there are some areas which have very high rates, I can't think that we can go ahead just yet with "release" dates. Map LINK  I see an area of Glasgow has over 1000 cases. I'm hoping there'll be a chance for more of the younger generation to get vaccinated before we "release." I was listening to Radio 4 covid science discussions this morning and the discussion raised the issue that children will probably need to be vaccinated as they are transmitting the latest Delta Covid variant more than previous variants.

 

SeasideBill replied on 12/06/2021 09:26

Posted on 12/06/2021 09:26

Given recent developments absolutely no chance of relaxations on 21 June, at least 2 further weeks is best case scenario, more likely 4 as a starting point. Given the Delta strain is 60% more infectious a significant number of young people need to be vaccinated to get the situation under control. We dodged a bullet… imagine the situation we’d be in now if the Delta strain had hit us in February before the onset of mass vaccination?

Cornersteady replied on 12/06/2021 17:23

Posted on 12/06/2021 09:26 by SeasideBill

Given recent developments absolutely no chance of relaxations on 21 June, at least 2 further weeks is best case scenario, more likely 4 as a starting point. Given the Delta strain is 60% more infectious a significant number of young people need to be vaccinated to get the situation under control. We dodged a bulletโ€ฆ imagine the situation weโ€™d be in now if the Delta strain had hit us in February before the onset of mass vaccination?

Posted on 12/06/2021 17:23

Agree with your two weeks and four would be safer in my view.

I'm not an expert, so don't quote me, but from what I recall from one is that each variant for any virus 'builds' upon the the previous one in small steps and it can't really go from from say alpha to delta. 

There are mutations or variants all the time, a whole lot more that the four we know about. It is in fact evolution in practice where a change  gives an advantage over the others and allows it to survive better.

Some variants do not give the virus any advantage (or even give a dis-advantage) and that variant will 'disappear' or we don't even notice them, over ones that do. Some mutation/variant give the virus a significant advantage over the others, like it is more transmissible or has a greater load, and that variant will become the dominant one, just like the Kent variant became the dominant one a few months ago.

Like I said not an expert, just going from recall. so just posting for discussion/information (ie don't shoot the messenger)

nelliethehooker replied on 12/06/2021 18:12

Posted on 12/06/2021 17:23 by Cornersteady

Agree with your two weeks and four would be safer in my view.

I'm not an expert, so don't quote me, but from what I recall from one is that each variant for any virus 'builds' upon the the previous one in small steps and it can't really go from from say alpha to delta. 

There are mutations or variants all the time, a whole lot more that the four we know about. It is in fact evolution in practice where a change  gives an advantage over the others and allows it to survive better.

Some variants do not give the virus any advantage (or even give a dis-advantage) and that variant will 'disappear' or we don't even notice them, over ones that do. Some mutation/variant give the virus a significant advantage over the others, like it is more transmissible or has a greater load, and that variant will become the dominant one, just like the Kent variant became the dominant one a few months ago.

Like I said not an expert, just going from recall. so just posting for discussion/information (ie don't shoot the messenger)

Posted on 12/06/2021 18:12

Evolution and Natural Selection in action! You can blame Darwin for that.

Cornersteady replied on 12/06/2021 18:43

Posted on 12/06/2021 18:12 by nelliethehooker

Evolution and Natural Selection in action! You can blame Darwin for that.

Posted on 12/06/2021 18:43

Indeed but never did I think it would be working against us. I suppose another aspect of the arrogance of our species?

Wherenext replied on 12/06/2021 19:09

Posted on 12/06/2021 18:12 by nelliethehooker

Evolution and Natural Selection in action! You can blame Darwin for that.

Posted on 12/06/2021 19:09

Some of the population haven't evolved from Knuckle-Dragging mode yet still seem more than capable of surviving. That seems rather unnatural to me.๐Ÿ˜‚

nelliethehooker replied on 12/06/2021 20:27

Posted on 12/06/2021 19:09 by Wherenext

Some of the population haven't evolved from Knuckle-Dragging mode yet still seem more than capable of surviving. That seems rather unnatural to me.๐Ÿ˜‚

Posted on 12/06/2021 20:27

In the time scale of natural selection we've only been around for a very short while. Our process has hardly started yet.

Wherenext replied on 12/06/2021 20:32

Posted on 12/06/2021 20:32

I'm under no illusion that HomoSapiens will be but a short few seconds in Earths clock.

However, in my nano second of existence I would prefer it if the K-Ds could keep out of my way please.๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰

Takethedogalong replied on 12/06/2021 20:41

Posted on 12/06/2021 19:09 by Wherenext

Some of the population haven't evolved from Knuckle-Dragging mode yet still seem more than capable of surviving. That seems rather unnatural to me.๐Ÿ˜‚

Posted on 12/06/2021 20:41

Knuckle draggers tend to be quite hardy. They breed more as well. I think we might have got one moved into our street lately. Their dog definitely has the higher IQ, all the owner does is grunt.๐Ÿ˜‚ It’s a pleasant grunt, but definitely a grunt. His education is on going at the moment, next door neighbour (very feisty) went round and read him the riot act about starting very smoky fires at 10am in the morning with everyone’s washing out drying. A word has been had about using petrol as a fire starter as well๐Ÿ˜ฑ Would hate for vaccine jabs to go to waste as he incinerates himself. Bit of a plonker methinks๐Ÿคท‍โ™€๏ธ

nelliethehooker replied on 12/06/2021 20:46

Posted on 12/06/2021 20:32 by Wherenext

I'm under no illusion that HomoSapiens will be but a short few seconds in Earths clock.

However, in my nano second of existence I would prefer it if the K-Ds could keep out of my way please.๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰

Posted on 12/06/2021 20:46

Hope there's none on your site, or have you just been unfortunate in meeting some while out today?

 

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