Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked

Whittakerr replied on 09/11/2020 12:10

Posted on 09/11/2020 12:10

Some good news. It seems one of the trial vaccines offers 90% protection against the virus. The developers have applied for an emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month. UK has an order in place for 30m doses.

AnnB replied on 10/11/2020 18:25

Posted on 10/11/2020 18:25

I was reading something earlier today (can’t for the life of me find it again) that suggested the low temperature the Pfizer has to be stored at wouldn’t be an insurmountable problem. The same temperature was required for storage of the Ebola vaccine and they managed that, albeit on a much smaller scale.

There are a number of ways of transporting it, using dry ice and another method of heavily insulated ‘suitcases’ and the temperature has to be maintained whilst transporting it but then you have a 5 day ‘window’ to use it.

They also suggested that GPs’ surgeries would group together for delivery and this is what our GPS did for ‘flu this year when we went to our local Sports Centre hall.

The problem will be how to maintain the temperature in third world countries which don’t have the same infrastructure.

looks like the most ‘vulnerable’ would be at the head of the queue whether because of location (care homes) occupation or age. That’s what happens with ‘flu vaccination programmes as the aim is to prevent deaths. If the vulnerable (that includes me) are given protection then there is less pressure on the NHS and fewer people for the younger people to infect with the drop in the R-rate. Has to be a positive move.

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 10/11/2020 20:13

Posted on 10/11/2020 18:25 by JVB66

Try englishwink

ps brother further south

Posted on 10/11/2020 20:13

Ahhhh, so you do understandšŸ‘šŸ»šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

LLM replied on 10/11/2020 20:35

Posted on 10/11/2020 18:25 by AnnB

I was reading something earlier today (canā€™t for the life of me find it again) that suggested the low temperature the Pfizer has to be stored at wouldnā€™t be an insurmountable problem. The same temperature was required for storage of the Ebola vaccine and they managed that, albeit on a much smaller scale.

There are a number of ways of transporting it, using dry ice and another method of heavily insulated ā€˜suitcasesā€™ and the temperature has to be maintained whilst transporting it but then you have a 5 day ā€˜windowā€™ to use it.

They also suggested that GPsā€™ surgeries would group together for delivery and this is what our GPS did for ā€˜flu this year when we went to our local Sports Centre hall.

The problem will be how to maintain the temperature in third world countries which donā€™t have the same infrastructure.

looks like the most ā€˜vulnerableā€™ would be at the head of the queue whether because of location (care homes) occupation or age. Thatā€™s what happens with ā€˜flu vaccination programmes as the aim is to prevent deaths. If the vulnerable (that includes me) are given protection then there is less pressure on the NHS and fewer people for the younger people to infect with the drop in the R-rate. Has to be a positive move.

 

Posted on 10/11/2020 20:35

I'm interested to know if the vaccine needs to be kept within a range close to the minus 80 deg C or just anywhere below.  If the former it could be quite challenging.  If the latter liquid nitrogen or even colder liquid helium would be useful and relatively easy.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 10/11/2020 20:41

Posted on 10/11/2020 20:35 by LLM

I'm interested to know if the vaccine needs to be kept within a range close to the minus 80 deg C or just anywhere below.  If the former it could be quite challenging.  If the latter liquid nitrogen or even colder liquid helium would be useful and relatively easy.

Posted on 10/11/2020 20:41

It can be stored around zero for 5 days before it’s compromised. It’s gonna be a challenge for this Govt going on their record on covid thus faršŸ¤·šŸ»‍ā™‚ļø

LLM replied on 10/11/2020 20:55

Posted on 10/11/2020 20:41 by Rocky 2 buckets

It can be stored around zero for 5 days before itā€™s compromised. Itā€™s gonna be a challenge for this Govt going on their record on covid thus faršŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

Posted on 10/11/2020 20:55

If that is the case then I don't see a problem.  The Government may not be up to it but the NHS certainly is.  Hopefully they won't let Dildo Harding anywhere near the organisation šŸ˜‚.

LLM replied on 11/11/2020 07:56

Posted on 10/11/2020 22:45 by Tammygirl

The FM for Scotland announced today that she already has 20 fridge/freezers ready for the vaccine surprised so that's good to know laughing

Posted on 11/11/2020 07:56

In the meantime they just happen to be stocked with ACHROOUS GIN,  for medicinal purposes of course wink.

LLM replied on 11/11/2020 09:16

Posted on 11/11/2020 08:20 by cyberyacht

LLM wrote "Hopefully they won't let Dildo Harding anywhere near the organisation "

Are you suggesting she'll cock it up?

Posted on 11/11/2020 09:16

surprised You may suggest that. I could not possibly comment sealed.

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