Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked

Whittakerr replied on 09/11/2020 12:10

Posted on 09/11/2020 12:10

Some good news. It seems one of the trial vaccines offers 90% protection against the virus. The developers have applied for an emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month. UK has an order in place for 30m doses.

LLM replied on 19/01/2021 21:42

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:12 by Cornersteady

I think you are not reading my posts correctly. I suggested nothing of the sort, they may catch the virus but will not get ill and will only have to self isolate for 10 days and only be away from their essential work for ten days.

No I did not.

You posted on page 90. I did query this with you about it at the time but you did not reply or clarify what you meant:

We have had three examples in our family. Two teens 'felt a bit grotty' and one 60 year old become quite ill but fully recovered, all took over three weeks before they tested negative.

 

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:42

Where do you get the idea that after having contracted the virus they only need to self isolate for 10 days before they can return to work?

Why do you understand 'all took over three weeks before they tested negative' to mean they recovered in 10 days?

In fact after the 60 year old tested positive it took about seven days for the fever to break, about another week for him to recover to a reasonable extent (he is still not 100%) and about another two weeks before he tested negative.  The test was done at the insistence of T&T because his wife is a nurse in a care home and because she had also contracted the disease.  Her progress was similar but less dramatic.

 

LLM replied on 19/01/2021 21:48

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:22 by Takethedogalong

You will notice I haven’t made any effort to determine which people should or should not have the vaccine, and in which order, simply because I am happy to go with the modelling from the scientists. All I have done is point out the work currently being done by one group of highly trained workers I considered undervalued by another poster, and your possible implication that firefighters are younger and won’t be as badly affected.

You are as in the dark as everyone else about just how an individual will be affected by Covid. Yes there are scientific trends, carefully analysed by scientists and statisticians, percentages and theories cherry picked to illustrate a chosen point by some posters. But no one can with predict with absolute certainty just how another individual will react to catching the Covid virus. 

I will leave you to suggest how society will cope if certain key workers are taken out of the equation. My crystal ball is in the dishwasher tonight, having a polish. I have to predict when lockdown will end tomorrow.......

 

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:48

You have not answered my question.

AnnB replied on 19/01/2021 22:09

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:42 by LLM

Where do you get the idea that after having contracted the virus they only need to self isolate for 10 days before they can return to work?

Why do you understand 'all took over three weeks before they tested negative' to mean they recovered in 10 days?

In fact after the 60 year old tested positive it took about seven days for the fever to break, about another week for him to recover to a reasonable extent (he is still not 100%) and about another two weeks before he tested negative.  The test was done at the insistence of T&T because his wife is a nurse in a care home and because she had also contracted the disease.  Her progress was similar but less dramatic.

 

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:09

Much as I hate to jump in on a private ‘discussion’...

Surely the recommendation following a positive test result is to isolate for 10 days. I know that’s what my niece’s partner had to do.

EasyT replied on 19/01/2021 22:13

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:09 by AnnB

Much as I hate to jump in on a private ‘discussion’...

Surely the recommendation following a positive test result is to isolate for 10 days. I know that’s what my niece’s partner had to do.

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:13

I read that a negative test after 5 days can release you. No idea how you would get that test though laughing

Takethedogalong replied on 19/01/2021 22:17

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:48 by LLM

You have not answered my question.

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:17

No, and I have no intention of doing so. 😉

EasyT replied on 19/01/2021 22:21

Posted on 19/01/2021 19:52 by Tammygirl

Lets not forget the Armed Forces, they have helped out throughout the pandemic.

The majority of them having to be away from their families at a time when they are needed at home.

Working long hours doing covid testing, without all the PPE just a face mask and plastic apron.

Now they are setting up vaccination centres all around the UK

Some are now deployed into hospitals helping the NHS with the unprecedented numbers of people needing hospital care.

Will they get a Covid jab?

Lets also not forget that on Christmas Eve many soldiers were deployed to Dover to run the testing of truck drivers who were stuck at the port.

These soldiers did not spend Christmas day with their families they worked long hours, they did not complain that they couldn't travel the length and breadth of the country to see their loved ones, they just did as they were asked and got on with the job, as they always have done and always will do. 

So if we are to make a list of people that SHOULD be getting a vaccination then my vote is for the Armed Forces who are helping out.

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:21

Four hundred military personnel have been deployed to hospitals in the Midlands and London to help the fight against Covid-19, the NHS has said.
They are working alongside doctors and nurses amid "unprecedented pressure" on the service.
The NHS has not said which or how many hospitals are involved, how the 400 are shared among them, or the roles armed forces members are performing.
But trusts in Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Shropshire are receiving support.
The armed forces have been involved in coronavirus operations since last year, including helping with community testing.

Tammygirl replied on 19/01/2021 22:42

Posted on 19/01/2021 20:09 by LLM

Once the current priority list has been completed I'm sure others will be given the vaccine.  I am also certain that the priority will be based upon the best use of available vaccine.  There is no point giving it to a group that is at very low risk of serious illness or death whilst others are at greater risk.  In due course the whole nation 18 years and above, will get it but it will take time.  Then a new annual programme may have to started if not before.  

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:42

I think you must have misunderstood undecided I wasn't suggesting that ALL the Armed Forces get vaccinated just those who are now working in the Hospitals on the Covid wards, the ones still manning Covid testing and any that end up giving the vaccines. As these will be coming into contact with high viral loads I think they deserve the same duty of care as our NHS and care workers.

Tammygirl replied on 19/01/2021 22:47

Posted on 19/01/2021 21:00 by Cornersteady

+1 TG We often disagree but our respect for the armed services is one thing I do think we have in common.

Posted on 19/01/2021 22:47

surprisedlaughing thanks,  I guess I do have great respect for them. My OH was in the Army for 45 years man and boy. Our eldest son is still serving in the Army  he's coming up to his 26th year in March and our youngest son served 5 years. 

Do we often disagree wink

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