The future

malnik replied on 07/10/2020 22:04

Posted on 07/10/2020 22:04

I have been a member for 3 years now, I don't think i can continue my membership for the years ahead. As a young family i find this club not exactly "family friendly". More to the point, I have been looking at the make up of the people at the head of the table, the council members and commitee. 

We live in a diverse country and our nation is much better for that amazing diversity. Unfortunately the club seems to be a relic of the 70s, diversity seems to be something we as a club are unaware of. I'm sure they are all doing a great job but how can we go ahead without our club reflecting the make up of the country and the people they represent. Dont get me started on age groups being represented. I have no idea what ages everyone is, but i don't see young families represented and once again, they can't be ignored. Unless ofcourse the club is for elderly white people only. Again, this is no criticism of those people.

The easy answer is anyone can apply or put themselves forward. But the aptmosphere has to be right, it has to be friendly to people from other groups to be able to apply. Is it? What is the cub doing to encourage more diversity? Younger representation? It has to be more than just a token "anyone can apply". And this direction has to be from the leader, Mr Lomas.

On the basis of the above, I can't continue to be a member when it comes time to renew. 

Wherenext replied on 18/11/2020 16:12

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:12

My first thought was words are cheap.  

He is a man who likes a bit of Hyperbolic, with the emphasis very much on the second part.

I thought, what a nice catchy headline to take away all of the other mess they are in at the moment. 

Like others I think the logistical problems will be too much to meet this deadline. Great for cities but rural areas are years and years away from even having a couple of points for PCs in the near vicinity. I know that one can use your own at home but that is rather limiting.

 

replied on 18/11/2020 16:14

Posted on 18/11/2020 15:59 by Tinwheeler

I think it was a quote from the press, John, where it was said charges of 'up to' £1.50 p/m were under consideration. I'd not worry too much yet.

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:14

I did read some of the typically sensational press drivel. I could not read it all as I am largely a low salt person and it would have required at least half a teaspoon full to enable digestion. Can't remember now but the lowest price talked about was at least 10% of of the highest

Rufs replied on 18/11/2020 16:27

Posted on 18/11/2020 15:59 by Tinwheeler

I think it was a quote from the press, John, where it was said charges of 'up to' £1.50 p/m were under consideration. I'd not worry too much yet.

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:27

I would worry, the last labour government had similar ideas, ok the price per mile was much less, and that was why i was in favour of it when a green paper was produced, but now we are talking about forcing petrol and diesel cars off the road and what better way to do that than hike up the cost of driving oneundecided

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/11/2020 16:45

Posted on 18/11/2020 15:59 by Tinwheeler

I think it was a quote from the press, John, where it was said charges of 'up to' £1.50 p/m were under consideration. I'd not worry too much yet.

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:45

One of the suggested addendums is the first 5,000 miles are free, another suggestion being rural dwellers away from bus routes will be able to apply for extra miles free. So it isn’t being actively considered now but the beginning on a national conversation👍🏻

Rufs replied on 18/11/2020 16:45

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:14 by

I did read some of the typically sensational press drivel. I could not read it all as I am largely a low salt person and it would have required at least half a teaspoon full to enable digestion. Can't remember now but the lowest price talked about was at least 10% of of the highest

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:45

take as much salt as you need, two quotes from a very wide range of articles from all major press feeds. Although scrapped last time due to public pressure, this time things will be considerably different.

"Under Tony Blair, Labour abandoned the unpopular idea of a national road pricing scheme amid fury at drivers potentially being charged up to £1.50 a mile. A petition against the plans reached 1.8 million signatures"

"

The chancellor, Rishi Sunak, is reportedly looking at a ‘pay-by-the-mile’ tax scheme for motorists to plug the gap in fuel duty as the electric car initiatives would put a stop to £40bn of annual tax revenue.

According to The Times, Sunak is “very interested” in a road pricing scheme and it comes after reports this weekend suggested the government is looking to bring forward the new petrol and diesel car ban to 2030.

A ‘pay as you drive’ scheme was last explored by the Labour government in 2007 but was scrapped due to opposition from motorists"

 

JVB66 replied on 18/11/2020 16:45

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:27 by Rufs

I would worry, the last labour government had similar ideas, ok the price per mile was much less, and that was why i was in favour of it when a green paper was produced, but now we are talking about forcing petrol and diesel cars off the road and what better way to do that than hike up the cost of driving oneundecided

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:45

HMG have got to recoup the loss of tax revenue from fossil fuel powered vehicles 

Drive at a per mile cost to all vehicles which will get most  ICE powered vehicles off the road unless fuel duty is scrappedundecided.or keep fuel duty and scrap all road tax,laughing or tax EVs by power outputcool ,

DavidKlyne replied on 18/11/2020 16:47

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:47

I am not sure we should get over excited about it. We knew that it was on its way but now earlier than first thought. Petrol and diesel cars will still be around until at least 2040 if not beyond. Electric cars will probably become cheaper as production numbers grow. I would love one but not prepared to spend that sort of money for something I don't use a lot. Charging infrastructure might be an issue but we have 10 years to get than in place. Here in MK that infrastructure is quite well developed. All electric cars can be charged overnight by means of what they call "granny chargers", via a 13 amp plug. Obviously there are issues with people that can only keep their cars roadside.

Road pricing makes sense because you can't tax the fuel an electric vehicle uses in the same way as you can a petrol or diesel as unlike a filling station you could be charging at home or in a car park. Obviously the proof of the pudding will be in how they set up the road charging regime. Originally in 2007 the idea was to charge to ease congestion so you could get different mileage charge depending on day and time of day. Technology is such that it is easy to track a vehicle. As an add on it might stop a lot of vehicle crime? The future might not be Orange but quite exciting none the less!!!

David

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/11/2020 16:50

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:45 by Rufs

take as much salt as you need, two quotes from a very wide range of articles from all major press feeds. Although scrapped last time due to public pressure, this time things will be considerably different.

"Under Tony Blair, Labour abandoned the unpopular idea of a national road pricing scheme amid fury at drivers potentially being charged up to £1.50 a mile. A petition against the plans reached 1.8 million signatures"

"

The chancellor, Rishi Sunak, is reportedly looking at a ‘pay-by-the-mile’ tax scheme for motorists to plug the gap in fuel duty as the electric car initiatives would put a stop to £40bn of annual tax revenue.

According to The Times, Sunak is “very interested” in a road pricing scheme and it comes after reports this weekend suggested the government is looking to bring forward the new petrol and diesel car ban to 2030.

A ‘pay as you drive’ scheme was last explored by the Labour government in 2007 but was scrapped due to opposition from motorists"

 

Posted on 18/11/2020 16:50

I believe the AA & RAC are not against it as they see it as a fairer way to charge going forward. But the motorist organisations are asking for a minimum of the roads being acceptable not just a series of potholes with a bit of road around them👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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